RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
October 12, 2018 at 10:38 am
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2018 at 10:51 am by vulcanlogician.)
(October 12, 2018 at 10:04 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: The idea that "consciousness causes collapse" hasn't been mainstream thought for probably 70 years.
I suppose that, since (AFAIK) the Copenhagen interpretation has never been successfully refuted, we'll have to deal with arguments propped up against what follows from it. Nice to hear you are a physicist. (I hope you don't mind: that means I'll occasionally ask you questions now.)
Quote:I am strongly against dualism. To me, it supposes an alternate universe of souls that operate on some mysterious parallel basis (or no basis at all). There is no reason for this idea beyond religious belief. We should look for answers within the universe, not imagine things that are outside it.
I also reject dualism, but I would argue that there are reasons to accept it outside of religious thinking. (Of course, theists LOVE dualism because it supports their idea of a soul, but that's apart from the issue.) Essentially, dualism explains the mind/body problem. In fact, it was the first explanation that philosophers got (Descartes' Meditations). I think that dualism and the mind/body problem are particularly significant (at least historically) because they spurred people to start thinking the right way. One great example is Spinoza, an early proponent of materialism, who was highly inspired by Descartes' thinking on the issue. You don't get outright statements that only physical matter exists unless someone first postulates that some sort of "non-physical" substance exists. Thus materialism was born. In it's own way, dualism helped us get to materialism.