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Big Bang
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RE: Big Bang
(October 19, 2018 at 7:17 am)polymath257 Wrote:
(October 18, 2018 at 10:10 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Is not this the Quantum Eternity Theorem that Professor Sean Carroll is speaking of, or, at least a simplified version of it?  I admit that I am no expert, but as I read Professor Griffiths, the central concept is one of renormalization, which, as you seem to acknowledge, implies that the Cosmos is eternal, that is, without beginning or end.

In any case, even if I am reading things wrong here, there are still eternal models of cosmology (infinite universes, in space and time), in the peer-reviewed scientific literature.

Well, even the derivation given only shows that the probability is constant through time. If time itself is finite, then the proof just applies when there is time.
But yes, there are models where time is not finite.
Which is why we just don't know which option is correct. At this point there simply isn't the data to choose between theories with finite time and those with infinite time.

The only thing that I am claiming is that there are plausible, naturalistic models that explain why there is something rather than "nothing", namely, that the Cosmos has always existed.

(October 19, 2018 at 8:51 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(October 18, 2018 at 10:10 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Is not this the Quantum Eternity Theorem that Professor Sean Carroll is speaking of, or, at least a simplified version of it?  I admit that I am no expert, but as I read Professor Griffiths, the central concept is one of renormalization, which, as you seem to acknowledge, implies that the Cosmos is eternal, that is, without beginning or end.

In any case, even if I am reading things wrong here, there are still eternal models of cosmology (infinite universes, in space and time), in the peer-reviewed scientific literature.


A foundational fact of reality; if not true, then Last Thursdayism is a viable hypothesis.

As you enumerates our current understanding of reality, what criteria do you use to assess which of what we believe to be facts are foundational, and which are not?

It seems to me Last Thursdayism is, and very likely will always remain, a viable hypothesis. it is just an as yet unsupported hypothesis. The possibility of it being true, while likely extremely small, certainly isn’t zero.

No hypothesis has a probability of zero; but unlike modern geophysics, Last Thursdayism, as a hypothesis, is not productive; it makes no predictions and leads to no testable experiments with measurable outcomes. As with all religious beliefs, it is one idea from an infinite set that can be chosen from.
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Big Bang - by purplepurpose - October 13, 2018 at 3:36 am
RE: Big Bang - by Astreja - October 13, 2018 at 3:48 am
RE: Big Bang - by purplepurpose - October 13, 2018 at 3:51 am
RE: Big Bang - by ignoramus - October 13, 2018 at 4:33 am
RE: Big Bang - by Dr H - October 17, 2018 at 4:18 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 13, 2018 at 5:37 am
RE: Big Bang - by Alan V - October 13, 2018 at 6:29 am
RE: Big Bang - by purplepurpose - October 13, 2018 at 6:33 am
RE: Big Bang - by Alan V - October 13, 2018 at 9:49 am
RE: Big Bang - by Deesse23 - October 13, 2018 at 6:17 am
RE: Big Bang - by JackRussell - October 13, 2018 at 6:23 am
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 13, 2018 at 6:28 am
RE: Big Bang - by LastPoet - October 13, 2018 at 6:43 am
RE: Big Bang - by purplepurpose - October 13, 2018 at 7:03 am
RE: Big Bang - by LastPoet - October 13, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 13, 2018 at 8:00 am
RE: Big Bang - by LastPoet - October 13, 2018 at 10:27 am
RE: Big Bang - by robvalue - October 13, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 13, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Big Bang - by Anomalocaris - October 13, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Big Bang - by purplepurpose - October 13, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Anomalocaris - October 13, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Angrboda - October 13, 2018 at 11:12 am
RE: Big Bang - by Minimalist - October 13, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Big Bang - by onlinebiker - October 13, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Big Bang - by Alan V - October 13, 2018 at 12:34 pm
RE: Big Bang - by brewer - October 13, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 14, 2018 at 7:53 am
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 14, 2018 at 8:08 am
RE: Big Bang - by polymath257 - October 18, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 17, 2018 at 11:02 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Little lunch - October 18, 2018 at 7:46 am
RE: Big Bang - by purplepurpose - October 18, 2018 at 7:49 am
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 18, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 18, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: Big Bang - by Anomalocaris - October 18, 2018 at 5:05 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 18, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Anomalocaris - October 18, 2018 at 5:51 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 18, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: Big Bang - by polymath257 - October 18, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 18, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: Big Bang - by polymath257 - October 19, 2018 at 7:17 am
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 19, 2018 at 9:17 am
RE: Big Bang - by Anomalocaris - October 19, 2018 at 8:51 am
RE: Big Bang - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 18, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Rahn127 - October 21, 2018 at 1:19 pm
RE: Big Bang - by Jehanne - October 21, 2018 at 8:38 pm

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