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How messed up are Trump Supporters?
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
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Trump’s claim of jobs from Saudi deals grows by leaps and bounds

Quote:“It’s $110 billion. I believe it’s the largest order ever made. It’s 450,000 jobs. It’s the best equipment in the world.”

— President Trump, in remarks to reporters, Oct. 13, 2018

“$110 billion in purchasing. It’s 500,000 jobs, American jobs. Everything’s made here.”

— Trump, in an interview with Trish Regan of Fox Business News, Oct. 16

“Who are we hurting? It’s 500,000 jobs. It’ll be ultimately $110 billion. It’s the biggest order in the history of our country from an outside military.”


— Trump, in an interview with Stuart Varney of Fox Business News, Oct. 17

“I would prefer that we don’t use, as retribution, canceling $110 billion worth of work, which means 600,000 jobs.

— Trump, during a defense roundtable at Luke Air Force Base, Oct. 19

“So now if you’re talking about — that was $110 billion — you know, you’re talking about over a million jobs. You know, I’d rather keep the million jobs, and I’d rather find another solution.”

— Trump, in additional remarks to reporters after the roundtable, Oct. 19

President Trump is not very precise with numbers, but this is getting ridiculous. He keeps citing U.S. jobs supposedly at risk if arms sales are cut off with Saudi Arabia after the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Not only has the purported number of jobs from a highly tentative arms deal with the Saudis kept climbing day after day, but in the course of few minutes, Trump appeared to go from 600,000 jobs to 1 million.

To be fair, he appeared to be saying that all of the deals he struck in Saudi Arabia — which he valued at $450 billion — would create 1 million jobs. But that’s just as fanciful. (We had earlier documented that the commercial agreements announced after his 2017 trip to the kingdom were mostly smoke and mirrors, with many of the purported deals aimed at creating jobs in Saudi Arabia, not the United States.)

In his various statements, the president also claims that all of the arms-deal jobs being created would be in the United States, but that’s not true. Saudi officials have said that they will insist that 50 percent of the spending will be in Saudi Arabia, for Saudi jobs, if the tentative agreements are to go forward.

The Facts

We’ve learned over time that the president does not pay much attention to details. So while he keeps increasing the number of jobs that he says would result from this deal, he might be surprised to learn what the official White House statement said when the deal was signed: “This package demonstrates the United States’ commitment to our partnership with Saudi Arabia, while also expanding opportunities for American companies in the region, potentially supporting tens of thousands of new jobs in the United States.”

“Tens of thousands” is much, much lower than 600,000. Even that might be a stretch, though note that the statement uses the phrase “potentially supporting,” rather than “creating,” jobs. That means the White House could have been counting not just new factory workers but also secondary jobs resulting from the “feedback” of employed defense workers. (In theory, each dollar spent by a newly employed person reverberates through the economy, creating jobs for dentists, librarians, bread bakers, farmers, bartenders and so forth.)

According to a confidential 2017 document of all of the military sales agreements reviewed by The Fact Checker, most of the items on Trump’s $110 billion list did not have delivery dates or were scheduled for 2022 or beyond. There appeared to be few, if any, signed contracts. Rather, many of the announcements were MOIs — memorandums of intent. There were six specific items, adding up to $28 billion, but all had been previously notified to Congress by the Obama administration.

Moreover, the Aerospace Industries Association says that in 2016, there were 355,500 manufacturing jobs supported by the entire defense and national security industry, generating $146 billion in annual exports. So it’s hard to imagine that $110 billion in deals with Saudi Arabia, spread over a decade, would significantly add to that total, let alone more than double it. For context, the U.S. economy is worth about $20 trillion a year.

On March 20, when Trump greeted Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the White House, he claimed 40,000 jobs were being created by about $19.4 billion in deals (most of which had been negotiated by President Barack Obama).

“Some of the things that we’re now working on and that have been ordered and will shortly be started in construction and delivered: the THAAD system — $13 billion; the C-130 airplanes, the Hercules, great plane — $3.8 billion; the Bradley Vehicles — that’s the tanks — $1.2 billion; and the P-8 Poseidons — $1.4 billion,” Trump said. “And what it does is it really means many, many jobs. We’re talking about over 40,000 jobs in the United States.”

The White House never provided an accounting of how the 40,000-jobs figure was determined, so we are dubious that it’s a reliable number. But even if we were to generously apply that same metric to $110 billion — one job for every $485,000 spent — you end up with only about 225,000 jobs.

Note that Trump on March 20 mentioned THAAD — the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense anti-ballistic missile system. The Saudis let a September deadline for the deal with Lockheed Martin lapse, despite a 20 percent price cut given by Trump. So, for now, he cannot even count on the THAAD, which was one of the biggest elements of the $110 billion wish list.

Okay, Trump’s estimate of the number of potential jobs is highly exaggerated. But then he doubles down on the falsehood by claiming, “It’s 500,000 jobs, American jobs. Everything’s made here.”

One of the few “done deals,” according to administration officials, is a $6 billion agreement to sell Lockheed Black Hawk helicopters. But the contract says the helicopters will be manufactured and assembled in Saudi Arabia. A Lockheed spokesman said the agreement would “support” 200 jobs at the company in Connecticut and 250 through “the supply chain” in North America, indicating that these are not new jobs in the United States.

A key part of the crown prince’s Vision 2030 economic plan is that 50 percent of military spending will be done in Saudi Arabia. In August, in an interview with Defense News, Saudi Arabian Military Industries chief executive Andreas Schwer said: “Those [$110 billion in foreign military sales] will be subject to our new scenario. We will apply for each and any of those contracts with the 50 percent localization rule, to be in line with Vision 2030.”

In other words, only half of the $110 billion, if the deals were actually inked, would be spent in the United States.



We asked the White House for an explanation of the president’s remarks but did not get a response.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Crossless2.0 - August 9, 2018 at 12:07 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 12:22 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 12:37 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Crossless2.0 - August 9, 2018 at 12:47 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 12:50 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 9, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Crossless2.0 - August 9, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Whateverist - August 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Whateverist - August 9, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 12:28 pm
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 9, 2018 at 1:49 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 2:07 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Anomalocaris - August 9, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 9, 2018 at 2:57 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 2:47 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 2:28 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 9, 2018 at 2:40 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Crossless2.0 - August 9, 2018 at 2:46 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 2:51 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 3:04 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 3:16 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 2:54 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 2:59 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 3:02 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 3:19 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 3:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 9, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 9, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - August 9, 2018 at 5:32 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - August 9, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - August 9, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 9, 2018 at 5:54 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Anomalocaris - August 9, 2018 at 6:39 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - August 9, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 8:14 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - August 9, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 10, 2018 at 4:36 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 10, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 10, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Brian37 - August 10, 2018 at 7:39 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 10, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 10, 2018 at 8:01 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - August 10, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by John V - August 10, 2018 at 8:23 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by downbeatplumb - August 11, 2018 at 6:57 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 10, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - August 10, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 11, 2018 at 6:53 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 11, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 13, 2018 at 9:08 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - August 13, 2018 at 10:04 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 17, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 20, 2018 at 12:36 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Anomalocaris - August 20, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fake Messiah - August 21, 2018 at 8:12 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - August 21, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - August 21, 2018 at 8:46 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Anomalocaris - August 21, 2018 at 8:49 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by vorlon13 - August 21, 2018 at 10:23 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 21, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2018 at 10:02 pm
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 29, 2018 at 2:22 pm
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 31, 2018 at 11:11 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - August 31, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Crossless2.0 - August 31, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 7, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 9, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 11, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 12, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Whateverist - September 13, 2018 at 6:59 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Joods - September 14, 2018 at 1:54 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 13, 2018 at 6:25 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - September 13, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 13, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - September 13, 2018 at 2:28 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 13, 2018 at 2:43 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 14, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 14, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - September 14, 2018 at 1:16 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 14, 2018 at 1:41 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 14, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 17, 2018 at 8:01 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 18, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - September 18, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by RobbyPants - September 23, 2018 at 3:26 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by GODZILLA - October 10, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by onlinebiker - October 15, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 19, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - September 20, 2018 at 12:45 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - September 20, 2018 at 2:00 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by RobbyPants - September 21, 2018 at 10:42 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 21, 2018 at 4:28 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - September 21, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - September 22, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - September 23, 2018 at 1:16 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Dom - September 26, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Dancefortwo - September 26, 2018 at 3:53 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by no one - September 26, 2018 at 4:00 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Dom - September 26, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Cecelia - September 26, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by RobbyPants - September 27, 2018 at 9:13 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Hobbitgirl - September 27, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 1, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 2, 2018 at 1:35 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 2, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 2, 2018 at 9:14 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by GODZILLA - October 4, 2018 at 11:02 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 5, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Figbash - October 5, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by downbeatplumb - October 6, 2018 at 6:40 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - October 5, 2018 at 11:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by tahaadi - October 6, 2018 at 12:09 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - October 6, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2018 at 8:32 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - October 6, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2018 at 1:37 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - October 6, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - October 6, 2018 at 12:19 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by tahaadi - October 6, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - October 6, 2018 at 3:56 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - October 6, 2018 at 12:46 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2018 at 6:33 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - October 6, 2018 at 6:41 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2018 at 6:48 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by downbeatplumb - October 6, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - October 6, 2018 at 7:10 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 9:11 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Joods - October 6, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - October 6, 2018 at 6:18 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2018 at 4:54 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 15, 2018 at 9:12 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Bucky Ball - October 15, 2018 at 10:13 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 20, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 20, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - October 20, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by downbeatplumb - October 21, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Fireball - October 21, 2018 at 9:01 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 22, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 22, 2018 at 4:18 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Joods - October 22, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - October 22, 2018 at 4:37 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - October 22, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 26, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 27, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 27, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Pat Mustard - October 27, 2018 at 3:20 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - October 27, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 27, 2018 at 7:06 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - October 30, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by GODZILLA - October 31, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 2, 2018 at 9:18 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 3, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by arewethereyet - November 3, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - November 3, 2018 at 4:53 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Whateverist - November 9, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 5, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - November 5, 2018 at 4:18 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 5, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 9, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2018 at 4:50 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Jehanne - November 12, 2018 at 8:27 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2018 at 8:58 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 13, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 13, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 13, 2018 at 9:23 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - November 14, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - November 15, 2018 at 1:14 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Dragonfly - November 14, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 15, 2018 at 7:25 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 15, 2018 at 9:36 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 20, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 22, 2018 at 1:55 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 26, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by GODZILLA - November 28, 2018 at 1:58 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Minimalist - November 28, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - November 28, 2018 at 9:09 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Amarok - December 5, 2018 at 11:49 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 1:47 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Bucky Ball - December 5, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - December 11, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - December 13, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - December 13, 2018 at 6:05 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - December 19, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 19, 2018 at 2:19 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - January 1, 2019 at 3:05 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Anomalocaris - January 18, 2019 at 12:15 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Angrboda - January 15, 2019 at 5:52 pm
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by Jade-Green Stone - January 19, 2019 at 7:20 am
RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards? - by downbeatplumb - January 19, 2019 at 8:51 am
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