(November 8, 2018 at 10:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(November 8, 2018 at 10:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It can be cured, but it's not some easy solution. Resolve, reliance on God and determination to change, while relying on a spiritual transformation from a spirit from God or the holy spirit and help from it, this is what majority of the people who "claim" to have stopped homosexuality or at least triggered bisexuality after being homosexual and resolve themselves to forbid the same sex desire.
Of course, like any state, like any bad state, some people can come back to it. So some of those people who claim success, perhaps they deceived themselves, perhaps they tricked themselves they transformed when they didn't.
But I would listen at least to get both sides - to people who claim to left homosexuality even if it's only 1/3 of them who truly have transformed, it might be true and there maybe a cure in what they say.
It's the same with people coming to Islam, a great portion then go back to their former faith or become Atheist after or something else, a lot of converts to Islam leave after.
I personally think any state of possible is possible for every human, whether it's corrupt or blessed, honorable or disgraceful, nothing is outside the realm of what free-will can forge the state of a human to be in.
I'll be also damned if I don't prove that schizophrenia is 100% curable.
First off, there's nothing there that needs to be 'cured' (unless the homosexual in question has a head cold or something). There's nothing that needs to be 'changed' or 'stopped' or 'forbidden'. Homosexuality is in as much need of a cure as brown eyes or left-handedness.
Secondly, people that go through this so-called 'conversion therapy' don't come out as heterosexuals. They come out as unhappy homosexuals who have been convinced that its a good idea for them to live a lie.
Lastly, fuck you and your superstition-based bigotry.
Boru
If I was Atheist, I Would believe the same as you. But with knowledge of dark magic and demonic forces, and I know what they have done to me and witnessed their psychological powers in that regard, I think differently regarding this.
A lot of our states - it can feel we have no choice and no will, because it's the opposite of what we want, but our sin was believing and succumbing to something by whispers of dark forces in the heart and confirmation of their lies by majority of society and their "great" "intellectuals and leaders".
The problem is the falsehood has no proof so the people of it resort of bullying the others "how dare you insult our gods" "you bigoted idiots trying to purify everyone", "we don't forbid you anyone why do you forbid us" etc, etc.
Time will tell when desires are unleashed - what will remain of humans and the degree of oppression that will ensue!