RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 13, 2018 at 3:10 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2018 at 3:15 am by Everena.)
(November 12, 2018 at 6:45 pm)unfogged Wrote:(November 12, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Everena Wrote: Why would we have a sex drive and want to procreate? Just for no reason?
We have a sex drive because it was stumbled into during the evolutionary process and it had positive effect for species survival. You keep assuming there is an intent behind everything. There's no justification or need for that.
Everena: It was stumbled into? Are you kidding? We have genitals and males and females can reproduce and you are seriously going to pretend that we just stumpled into our sex drive? Did we trip over something when we were drunk and stumple into it? I mean, come on!
And we have reproductive organs so obviously there is a very incredibly important intent behind everything. Wake up!!!!
(November 12, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Everena Wrote: That is not a valid explanation for all the pain and suffering that exists in this world.
Actually, it is once you drop the unfounded assumption that there is intent behind events.
Quote:We have a goal to acheive here of becoming better people so we can be rewarded with eternity in paradise. As you know though, you can do anything you darn well please.
That is simply inane. A god that wanted beings to live an eternty in paradise could just create that. Setting up a "test" that lasts less than 100 years and providing no unambiguous instructions and considerable evidence that there is NO afterlife would be the work of an insane monster.
Everena: God did not create our true selves, we always have been and always will be. God created our flesh here. Obviously we are in serious need of improvement to deserving of an eternal paradise and some much more than others.
(November 12, 2018 at 5:04 pm)Everena Wrote: I determined my explanation for pain and suffering by deciding on the only thing that would make this a fair and just universe. The fact that over a billion people in the world think so too was just an added bonus.
The idea that you want this to be a fair and just universe has zero bearing on whether or not it is a fair and just universe. The evidence all points to it being a wholly uncaring universe and your refusal to accept that is entirely your loss. You can accept it and work to make things better now or reject it and continue living in your fantasy world along with everybody else who is unwilling to face reality as it is.
Everena: I refuse to believe any unfair, unjust, cold, cruel world theory.
(November 12, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Everena Wrote: You should believe whatever makes the most sense to you and if that makes sense to you, so be it.
You should believe whatever the actual evidence supports, not what makes you feel good.
(November 12, 2018 at 5:13 pm)Everena Wrote: We only suffer through pain that we have intentionally caused to others in this life or in past lives, and especially to our other half/soulmate since they are the ones we can damage the most.
There's zero credible evidence of past lives.
Everena: That is not true at all. There is a ton of credible evidence from Dr Ian Stevenson alone.
Quote:I refuse to believe in an unfair and unjust cold, cruel universe theory. Sorry, that explanation will never make any sense to me.
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You’d better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can’t rearrange the universe." -- Isaac Asimov
(November 12, 2018 at 7:18 pm)Astreja Wrote:(November 12, 2018 at 7:03 pm)Everena Wrote: Even if they are, it does not explain why {plants} would all be here to feed us unless it was because of GOD...
Evolution explains it very simply.
Organisms that ate unhealthy or poisonous plants did not live to reproduce.
Organisms favouring plants that are both healthy and good-tasting would eat those instead. They would have more energy to fight off or run from predators, they would live to reproductive age, their offspring would continue to select beneficial plants for food, and are the survivors and our ancestors.
Evolution is a human made term used to describe a process that we discovered was happening. It does not explain the first cause of anything including food. So no, that does not explain why we have food on this planet for the approx 7.8 million different species of conscious life.