Christian morality delusions

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Wyzas,
God cannot arbitrarily do anything whatsoever that we may conceive of. He can do only those things which are in not logically absurd or contradictory and a proper objects of his power and nature. He cannot make square circles or rocks even he can't lift, etc. I know God's nature through the Holy Spirit, experiential observation, faith and reading of the Bible.

Jor,
I see your point that

morals are just something we each decide, then there is no way to determine whose morals are correct and indeed the question becomes inapplicable because all morals then become correct because any arbitrary moral opinion is granted validity.

with relation to subjective morality and I honestly was just confused by your definition arbitrary. I was not meaning to define what you meant by your definition just defining how I read it. If you define arbitrary as "did not depend upon anybody but himself" then I accept that God as a source of objective morality is an arbitrary source.

I'm trying to address all points I apologize, I believe your point from your 2 world example is that God could be a baby throwing a tantrum, an evil tyrannical bigot or a shining knight of justice, and we'd have no reference to validate that and thus it is moot. Is that about right? If I am catching your meaning, can we evaluate a creator God's by His creation and His nature? Can we critique a Judging God by His judgments and His nature? There are no grounds where opposite worlds that claim to be both be good would have validity without an objective moral authority.

Gae and the others,

There is circularity in judging one's values by one's values, I believe. I don't believe subjective morality is a problem in a perfect world. How do you stop 2 subjective moralists from arguing? wait for one of them to prove he's right by putting a bullet through the other's head. subjective morality would be enough for me if everyone wanted to get along and have peace, I am a hippie lover. It's not though and people have police and lock their doors because societal or personal subjective morality has proven to be not enough. It's not my displeasure with the events, it's the testing and observation that subjectivity in morality is not worth anything more than the subject using it.

And to answer the last question No objective morality doesn't reduce tolerance. The fact of having an objective authority does not necessitate compliance with or acceptance of that authority. Having an objective rule stick doesn't make people bash each other over the head with it (Even though that's been done a lot in the past too, with or without God).


Last minute Omni answer- God is all powerful and will act according to His nature. An all powerful God can not create a rock he cannot lift because that is a logical paradox. You can pic it apart and say then God is not all powerful and I'd be fine with that. would God can do all possible things sit better with everyone?

I'm really trying to see the other side of the coin on moral subjectivity without moral objectivity and I think I've been genuine and intentional in my responses, if the peanut gallery can't keep the strawmen out of this then I'll just mosey elsewhere. I do appreciate those that have contributed and taken the time to respond though.