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God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe
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RE: God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe
(November 24, 2018 at 1:07 am)tackattack Wrote: 1. I don't think I'm special, but let's go with that for this point.God could create infinitely "better" or "worse" universes with infinitely better or worse inhabitants. I know he things we're better than 2 sparrows, but sure let's say we're created in His image so that makes us special

2. Well, he could have done all of 1, but still made us, so 2 is proven by 1.

You lost me on 3 and 4. Simple, I like simple
By your definition of omnipotence, this would indicate that this universe's creation is not the end of God's supposedly unending power. Sure, maybe there's a universe with a God hotline phone on every planet and different species on every planet.

The problem is the universe is the sum of everything we mere mortals know. I don't know if there is a better universe than this, but there could be. What would still make us special is that we re created in His image and believers particularly were given the Holy Spirit

Does that answer your question. I have a question though... who comes to an atheist forum looking for Christians to argue with? Welcome though. I hope I fell into your steel logic trap as you wanted.

Your superstitious view of a top down super cognition is the problem.

You never want to consider that there is no super cognition, and that is simply merely a reflection of human's qualities in fictional form.

The universe is 13.8 billion years old. It makes no sense to claim an all powerful perfect being to wait 99.8 percent of that history to finally put our species on one tiny rock, only 200,000 years ago, on a hostile planet, in an age of ignorance, and only get around to human writing a mere 10,000 years go. And still to this day people fighting over what his name is, and which holy writing is correct. 

Cockroaches and bacteria outnumber humans and have existed far longer than humans. The water bear has survived all 5 mass extinction events. Humans can choke and die on while eating because we share the same eating breathing tube, whereas dolphins and whales don't have that problem.

The average amount of deaths worldwide is 50 to 60 MILLION per year, from everything you can think of at every age. Stillborn, childhood famine, disease, accidental, natural disaster, man made disaster, crime and war and old age. That is half a billion deaths in 10 years and 1 billion deaths on average every 20 years.  That does not indicate to me a cosmic security guard is magically helping humans.
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RE: God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe - by Brian37 - November 24, 2018 at 7:09 am

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