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God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe
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RE: God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe
(November 24, 2018 at 7:09 am)Brian37 Wrote: Your superstitious view of a top down super cognition is the problem.

You never want to consider that there is no super cognition, and that is simply merely a reflection of human's qualities in fictional form.

The universe is 13.8 billion years old. It makes no sense to claim an all powerful perfect being to wait 99.8 percent of that history to finally put our species on one tiny rock, only 200,000 years ago, on a hostile planet, in an age of ignorance, and only get around to human writing a mere 10,000 years go. And still to this day people fighting over what his name is, and which holy writing is correct. 

Cockroaches and bacteria outnumber humans and have existed far longer than humans. The water bear has survived all 5 mass extinction events. Humans can choke and die on while eating because we share the same eating breathing tube, whereas dolphins and whales don't have that problem.

The average amount of deaths worldwide is 50 to 60 MILLION per year, from everything you can think of at every age. Stillborn, childhood famine, disease, accidental, natural disaster, man made disaster, crime and war and old age. That is half a billion deaths in 10 years and 1 billion deaths on average every 20 years.  That does not indicate to me a cosmic security guard is magically helping humans.

As so often happens, the approach you're taking here doesn't seem to take in all the possibilities. 

You're thinking about what you would do if you were omnipotent, and then, because those things don't happen, judging that there must not be a God. That is, if you were omnipotent you wouldn't let bad things happen to good people, and you would have created the universe in what you perceive to be a more efficient manner, not wasting all that time before people got here. 

This shows a lot of confidence in your own opinion about how good universes are run. Forgive me for suggesting it, but you may be some way from omniscient, and there may be aspects of the universe and the way in which things happen that neither you nor I are good at thinking about. Humans are finite and there's a lot we don't know. 

This doesn't mean there is a God. But it does mean that your argument really boils down to saying you would do things differently if you had your own universe.
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RE: God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe - by Belacqua - November 24, 2018 at 7:36 am

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