(December 5, 2018 at 10:53 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Meh, more or less..but if you're simply trying to understand my position then I see no reason not to go with exactly what I said at the outset. It would probably be easier to address some single item that you want clarity for at a time.K
(December 4, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:certainty isn't dangerous. certainty is functional. I'm certain that leaning on this tree will hold me up. It doesn't have to, but when it does it reaffirms that certainty. It's the closest thing to objectivity we can find. It can be dangerous if we apply moral value to it, depending on the source. But objectivity doesn't set value, subjective morality does. And subjective morality has a plethora of input that can cloud judgement.
(December 4, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:could you cite where it is good or Godly to give a curby that isn't subjective morality?
(December 4, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:Aside from the blanket hasty generalization, I will disagree. You can't be devoted and serious about your faith and be decent? That's a blatant correlational fallacy. Yes I can tell nutters and you can tell nutters usually when they open their mouths, but to correlate devotion and faith with being irrational and decent, that's a mistake. You can be decent and rational and completely dedicate yourself to your faith and studies. I believe Religion doesn't cause murder, people murder and use religion as an excuse. I feel it's the same for faith and decency. People are going to be pricks if they want to whether they believe in God or not. If anything more dedication should curb that rather than accentuate it.
(December 4, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:So believers can't love both this life and a perceived next? There are plenty of examples of people doing good in this life just for good's sake and not to gain some reward in an afterlife. All members do not dream of the apocalypse, see nutters comment above. Secondly, If people make the Gods then I would agree that red in claw applies to God's as well. Humans are finite and fearful. Instincts to cause a galvanization and escalation of violence. I consider that a human trait though, not a God trait. Religions being the human institutions attempting to figure out a God(s) I can see some human bias in how they use their knowledge.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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