RE: Angry Atheists and Anti-Theists
December 12, 2018 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2018 at 5:33 pm by Angrboda.)
(December 12, 2018 at 4:25 pm)tackattack Wrote: Yes. Yes Peebo, atheism is a lack of belief not a belief, and as thus, has yet to inspire anything but apathy. Religion can cause wars, just as hatred of religion can. Just as secular totalitarian atheist regimes can. Wars, death and suffering are caused by violence. Violence can be propped up by whatever cause suits your need. Can an atheist be violent? yes. Can a theist be violent? yes. That was my only point for Simon.
I have no problem saying theism contributed to lots of needless death around the world. I believe secular society has caused more for lots of various reasons. Simon though just made an assertion, without support and I didn't feel it was an equitable analogy.
And I think the counter-point to that, as I'm sure you are aware, is that secularism and atheism have been associated with killers but not as clearly implicated as the direct motivators of killers like religion has been. A fact I doubt that you are ignorant about. If you feel that secularism or atheism has been a direct motivator of significant killing as secularism/atheism qua secularism/atheism, then I'd like to hear your arguments and examples.