Angry Atheists and Anti-Theists

[GrandizerII]

Some people justify it. Others claim its not everyone. Some are angry that im questioning their anger.

Perhaps it's more like some of us just find your constant whining about atheists really annoying. I also find it ironic that you accuse atheists of being angry when you come off as a really angry person yourself.

While others are still getting hung up on labels which was the first thing i tried clarifying on this forum. I repeatedly asked what to call it without a response. "We don't want any labels"

Call what exactly? Atheism? Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of god(s), not an assertive belief regarding the non-existence of god(s). It's not that we don't want atheism to be a belief, it's that calling atheism a belief is misleading.

People got emotional when i called it a view or a position as well.

I'm not convinced that anyone got emotional when you called atheism anything, and suspect you may be projecting big time. Nevertheless, atheism (in the simplest sense of the term) isn't a belief. It might be rightly considered a position or view or whatever, but it doesn't affirm the truth of anything with respect to the existence of god(s) ... or anything for that matter. It's a lack of belief, not a belief itself.

I have to call it something so i'll call it a belief seeing they believe there are no Gods by definition.

No that would be a specific subtype of atheism, namely "strong atheism". Not all atheists believe there are no gods; many atheists simply do not make an assertive statement regarding the existence or non-existence of god(s).

Perhaps people would prefer if I called it a feeling.

Not in this case. A feeling would indicate a belief of some sort. Mere atheism is not a belief; it's just a suspension of belief.

The man in the video has no problem excusing his own family for bringing him up in a religion. His logic being that they were taught that and don't know any better.
But instead of applying this logic to the rest of the people he goes on to slam everyone else in religion. How irrational can one be?

Haven't seen the video, nor do I care enough to watch it. What I do find curious is why exactly are you so hung up about this? Did an atheist hurt your feelings or something? Is this why you've decided to come here and, quite ironically, slam atheists because of the action of one or a select few atheists?

The same thing happened to me. I didn't say anything but I  resented my parents for raising me as a Catholic. So I was an atheist for a while. Rejecting all claims in any God.
Eventually, emotions eased and logic prevailed. My parents aren't intentionally feeding lies to me. They were taught this and don't know any better. I eventually extended this logic to the ordinary people who are theists. I eventually came to the conclusion that i cannot reject the possibility of some kind of God or creator and vowed to only deal in facts, knowledge and truth instead of feelings and beliefs.

So why the hate then? If you're all about facts, knowledge and truth now instead of feelings and beliefs, why the hell are you acting so emotional? It's like you don't even realize how you're coming across as.

For someone who holds a belief these type of rections are unreasonable and truly savage. He wasn't being personally confronted and shouted at. He wasn't abused, thretened or forced to do anything. The only people he can be angry with are his family and himself. Blaming ordinary people is not fair. Though atheism Im learning is in itself not very fair. Preaching ur beliefs by slandering the beliefs of others isn't at all tolerant.

Neither are you for that matter. Ever since your first post here, you've not come across as very accepting of atheists. And you still insist on calling atheism a belief despite people here making the contrary clear to you over and over.

And how the hell do you know what the person in the video has gone though exactly? You don't exactly have access to his past experiences now, do you?

Vilifying a whole group of people for something that happened before our lifetime like war or slavery is insane. No one can change the past. The fact is that 99% of Christians keep to themselves. They don't force their views on others. They have good morals.

Then why not do the same yourself then? Who the fuck do you think you are that you can lecture any of us about morals when you come across as a sanctimonious hypocritical prick?

My mum told me how she was waiting to pay for her groceries when a couple began to harass her over a simple crucifix necklace. She asked them to leave her alone but they caused such a scene that she left her shopping trolley in the queue and walked away. What kind of spinless person does this. Criticises an old woman for her necklace at the grocery store... And I bet some people here would justify this. Most won't mention it. While some will continue with the accusations as they are threatened by my skeptical line of questioning.

What skeptical line of questioning? And who said that the couple who harrassed your mum were atheists? You do know that there are Christians out there who criticize other Christians for wearing a crucifix, right?

The dislike of Christianity is well-known and unjustifyably aggressive. The preaching of the atheist belief as being superior to other traditional beliefs lacks credability. Its a reactionary position without foundation, taken only to oppose religion. Atheists don't believe there are gods but also don't believe there are no Gods apparently. This is blatent hypocracy to the most extreme.

I don't even think you understand what the word "hypocrisy" means. And again, I have to point out that you are being an aggressive fuck yourself, and projecting how you feel about atheists onto us. You yourself are the hypocrite here because you're accusing others of that which you are blatantly guilty of yourself.

And again with the wilful misrepresentations. You're that angry with atheists, aren't ya?