(September 30, 2011 at 4:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I never said you insulted him.
You said I threw in a small insult for good measure. We can let that go, though. I'm not put out.
(September 30, 2011 at 4:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Zak is continuing along with all he can get out of people at this point, beyond insults. His bravado is what you're attacking.
Not at all. I take umbrage to the fact that he is quite intentionally saying I said things I did not. Would you not find that insulting?
(September 30, 2011 at 4:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: He's still remaining calm and focussed. Maybe there should be a medal for that.
Yeah, we can call it the happiest flamer award.
Quote:Except this time you're not helping maybe?
I came in here to discuss the topic, which was derailed immediately by Zaki. I think my posts speak for my intentions.
(September 30, 2011 at 1:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If the atheists are preventing reasoned discussion it's a problem. Or maybe it's convenient.
Of course it is a problem. I have insisted atheists back off before. I'm sure some remember it less than fondly.
Quote:You're too nice Shell. I wouldn't have the patience. And you do a great job. You know I think the world of you. Of course some won't get it.
I don't have the patience. I fake it. I like you a bunch too, Frodo. Our mutual respect is certainly not at stake over disagreements.
Quote:He had no choice did he. If he complained you'd call him a whining theist. If he fights you call him a troll. The issue is that he started civil.
Of course he did, Frodo. It might not seem like it, but there is a great deal of debate whenever a post is reported. Sometimes, the action to take is obvious. Other time, I will read the thread thoroughly, as will others. There have been times when I came to the defense of a new theist and then stepped in the thread and told everyone to back off. I know you are not privy to all of that and that every post I make is not under your scrutiny, but I assure you, I do my utmost to be unbiased, as do the rest of the team. It's not the fighting that gets one labeled as a troll, it is the trolling. Oftentimes, there are private messages with the newb that we do not share with the members. You may not see the reason for a banning or stern talking to, but they are always there.
Quote:Indeed. But I don't blame the consequence of trolling, I blame the trolls (the people who won't let up with name calling).
That's a hard one for me. I know some people are sensitive, but I'm just not a fan of stopping every insult if there is discussion among it. However, I do agree that if people cannot control themselves, we have a problem.
Quote:Well one of the site's strap lines is something along the lines of giving everyone a voice. That isn't the case.
What you [collectively] sow is flame baiting.
They do have a voice. I cannot help that they choose to use that voice to mock and flame the current members. I don't understand how you expect me to be fair when you want to be overly lenient with theist flamers. I can't apply both extremes as a mod, Frodo. I certainly try very hard to remain in the middle.