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[Drich]

I actually was making this point in post 42 where it shows the brother of antipas, Archelaus as the king of judea while antipas rules as tetarch. Archelaus was an entarch. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_Archelaus

And what's more my original argument : Bears out Archelaus as a possible luke 1:5 'herod.'



Again not disputing "the great" being identified in other books of the bible. just point out that in luke the translation CAN push the time line back as it is possible to have two different herods one beng the king of judea and the other of galilee at the same time. (remember tetrarch= 4 rulers, and there are 4 siblings. rome divided HtG kingdom amongst the children of herod.)
Granted this is a hair that does not need to be split unless you are trying to rectify the time line held with in luke. at which point can be justified with a later date.

look this is not my message as it did not originate from me. it is a message I have heard several times in the past. it is not a for or against which time lie. it simply offers a different pov.

OK, so you've gone from trying to prove Antipas was the Herod mentioned in Luke 1:5 to Archelaus was our Herod of Luke 1:5. And you claim that I move the goalposts. 

Scholarly consensus favors my interpretation. Do you have any evidence to offer for yours?

I went from proving that luke 1:5 does not have to be herod the great thus creating a 10 year contradiction to proving that luke 1:5 does not have to be herod the great but his oldest son. This is not shifting the goal posts as the objection remains. the correction is what changed..

 Again not my original sermon it was something I heard several years back and simply got the names confused Antipater=antipas and Archelius are not exactly common names. I even tried to correct this in post 42 where I showed you where both ruled at the same time in the narrow window where Christ was a child. I knew the crux of the argument centered around the idea that the name herod was ambiguous as 5 different rulers all shared this common surname. 

Not to mention that I did this whole thing with yahweh is the way a week before and got it right till one of you called my use of antipater in place of Archelus which started my unchecked use of antipas. Meaning having to repeat myself 3 or 4 time per subject per thread times two different threads on the same subject tends to get confusing. so sorry about the mix up.