RE: What do moderates think Jesus died for?
January 13, 2019 at 11:13 am
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2019 at 11:42 am by Bucky Ball.)
(January 13, 2019 at 8:15 am)Acrobat Wrote: How about belief in a creative order, a reality that posses objective moral values, a transcendent moral reality. That the wrong I perceive exists independently of myself and other such the yellow of my wife’s dress, or the existence of other minds.
Would this also fall into a belief in invisible donkeys, and fairies?
An yes, the old debunked argument from morality.
We know from Anthropology and History that human cultures have vastly different moral values.
Some cultures (including the Hebrews) sacrificed children, and thought that was a way to obtain the favor of the gods.
The morality in the Bible changed radically over time. There is no "objective" morality.
The wrong you perceive you LEARNED from growing up in your culture. It is why philosophers and those who study ethics ARGUE and disagree all the time about what is moral.
Yes, your cultural beliefs, examined are yours, and can be the same as belief in invisible donkeys and fairies.
You think honor killings prove the moral order ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
LOL
Or this "moral order" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide
John 3:17
"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
The Christian position is that Jesus was sent for a very specific purpose, NOT to "just be human" in the world.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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