(January 13, 2019 at 8:47 am)Acrobat Wrote:(January 2, 2019 at 4:28 pm)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: A lot of atheists, myself included, believe that Jesus might've never existed, not even as a regular human. I'm pretty sure that it happens in most if not all cases of coming out to unsopportive friends and family, that the outedt person is asked whenever they believe that Jesus existed as a person and was a good man. What should they respond? Should they tell the truth or change the subject?
I think people look at those who deny Jesus historically existed, like they would flat earthers, or holocaust denialist. We have first hand accounts of someone who met his disciples and brother, we have Josephus writing of his brothers death, we a number of sayings, parables, stories incorporating a unique style of irony, reversals of expectstions, etc.. in mutiple texts, attributed to none other than Jesus.
In fact Jesus was acknowledged as historical person even from staunch Roman opponent said of Christianity.
If you try and explain all the events that transpired and gave rise to the Christian movement, without a historical Jesus, it’s not long before it drifts into the mother of all conspiracy theories, that you start sounding like someone suggesting sandyhook was staged
I'm not trying to be insulting but this is a ridiculously low bar of thinking. All of the things you mentioned are modern with heaps of evidence compared to Jesus. Maybe we can look back in 2000 years to see how those stories have changed.
Why not compare it with historical figures such as Gilgamesh, An Dương Vương, or Qin Shi Huang.
If water rots the soles of your boots, what does it do to your intestines?
