Atheists being asked about the existence of Jesus

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And you wonder why Ahistoricist get categorized with flat earthers and holocaust, unsurprisingly there’s even a zeitgeist film promoting this idea.

Is that as much as you know about critical scholarship?  That nutballs have opinions and people make movies?  Do you want to have this conversation or just sling shit back and forth?  

Apparently non-existing people can write letters, and we can’t trust anything from Josephus.

I take it by this newest series of batshit diversions you have no explanation for your attempt to certify mythology by referring to folklore, but perhaps you simply don't understand why this is a loons idea of historicity?

Are you under the impression that the legendary character of paul is a novel position held exclusively by a-historicists and filmmakers?  It's not.  It's the standard position of new testament scholarship..there is no dispute in this from any corner. You can stow the "my mythology or no history" routine..I'll tell you that from the outset. It's trash, entirely non-academic..and I won't humor you. So consider that you're wasting your breath the next time you blurt out some silly shit like the above?

So the standard position among NT scholars are that Paul and Jesus were not historical figures?

Is it also the standard position of historians that Josephus writings shouldn’t be trusted, including non disputed portions of his text?

I point out a first hand account, you claim it’s not a first hand account because supposedly the person who wrote it didn’t exist.

I point to the writings of the only Roman historian writing of that entire period of Roman Palestine as evidence as well, and you claim that his historical writings aren’t evidence either.

These are cards from a flat earthers playbook whether you realize it or not.

Let me tell you about the actual standard positions among historians and NT scholars.

That Jesus and Paul are historical figures, that Josephus is a reliable source for first century history, that the James portion is authentic.

I don’t care if you’re in a secular or religious university, but no major history or NT scholarship department suggests otherwise.