RE: If it wasn't for religion
January 28, 2019 at 9:36 am
(This post was last modified: January 28, 2019 at 9:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 26, 2019 at 11:34 am)Acrobat Wrote:Perhaps that's why society thinks so? I mean, IDK if it's really all that profound or eternal..but it seems like skullfucking people is a bad thing, and so it doesn't surprise anyone to find that there are skullfucking prohibitions in every society.(January 26, 2019 at 9:00 am)Grandizer Wrote: How does appealing to a god bolster anyone's moralizing exactly? Saying that killing is wrong because God ... does not make sense to me.
I said eternal truths, telling me that killing is wrong because it’s violate some profound and eternal law, is a bit more persuasive
than telling me killing is wrong because society thinks so.
Quote:And their version of reality lacks any moral aims and purposes, doesn’t convince a man to take the hand off of his brother neck, or laddle benediction on the heads of strangers rather than curses.Imagine that this were true, and then tell me how to distinguish between the failures of that camp and any other, say the religious camps..with their endless fraternal war?
All their version of reality tells us is all is permissible.
It would be unfortunate if mere reality were insufficient as a moral basis, but if that were so.... then that would be so. It wouldn't certify the truth of a superstitious morality. You're only telling us that if your superstitions turned out to be false, which they certainly are, then you couldn't be compelled to decency. Where others see a world of right and wrong, you see only a free-for-all.
Generally, I doubt that this is true of anyone. I'm inclined to believe that you and others who say similar things are mistaken about yourselves in this regard.....bluntly, I see you pointing to moral facts as though they established the supernatural. This suggests that you at least see the moral dimensions of mere reality.
OFC, I can only object with so much force, if you and they actually are some sort of sociopath...and you would endlessly reassert the above..well, then so be it? I hope you remain superstitious?
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