If it wasn't for religion

[The Grand Nudger]

More or less, sure....though..again, because I'm a realist somethings intersubjectivity isn't the same as somethings being objective - though ultimately the two can be difficult to separate.  

You keep insisting that I do no matter how many times I tell you otherwise.  Why ask me a question about what I think if you're going to ignore my answer and provide your own in it's place?

-I think- that there are moral facts of a matter, but I'm not certifying every random fucking thing that falls out of peoples mouths and gets called a fact as one of them.  Mostly, because people like you exist and make such claims, lol.  It's certainly possible for the things a person calls a fact to be dependent on their beliefs.   You've been a case example of that in this thread and the last.  

For example, you believe that an atheist realist is delusional and incoherent.  On the basis of that belief..and seemingly nothing else, you've breathlessly repeated as much as though it were a fact.

Okay so the goodness, badness of things, don't exist independent of conceptual designations.  Good and bad, exists relative to some particular standpoint, and don't exist outside of that standpoint. 

Can you read?  This is just two posts back.....and nothing in the quoted comments above has anything to do with the shit you just responded with......

Moral Goodness and Badness exist independently of us, \

Yep.

Outside of this standpoint the holocaust is neither good nor bad. 

Agreed?

No.....jesus fucking christ this is tedious.  

I'm not ignoring your answer, I don't find your answer all that clear, so I do my best to tell you how I understand your responses. If my understanding is wrong, then I expect additional clarifications.

Sure.  

Tell you what might help you understand. Reading.