Evolution and Christianity and Salvation

[Brian37]

But then, you have no evidence of it being there. Business as usual.

No evidence necessary. I wasn't trying to prove anything or convince anyone that what I said is true.

Oh man, if you are going to take  a position, own it. 

From a human rights standpoint, nobody is forcing you to prove anything. Nobody is going to have you arrested or murdered for having a position we don't find is credible.

But what you don't see, that I do, with theists of every label, having been online debating since 2001 almost every day since, that everyone pulls this.

The issue is not your human rights. The issue is your position, your logic, your evidence.

If you hold a position, and truly believe it, DEFEND IT, don't back off it. Don't use this doge.

Nobody is going to kill you if you cant prove it. But please do not insult us by pretending you don't have a position you wish more would hold.

If for example, I had a new invention, I knew would help the world, why hide from it, why hold it back, why not defend it? 

If you take a position, OWN IT. I have more value for those who disagree with me, even if I think they are full of crap, than I do for those who try to doge their positions.

After that, if you find yourself keep hitting walls, not getting your point across, not convincing others, then the next thing is to consider, that maybe you got it wrong, and maybe those objecting to your logic have a better way for you to see things.