(February 7, 2019 at 10:27 am)Yonadav Wrote:(February 7, 2019 at 9:23 am)Thoreauvian Wrote: Nice dodge. Now perhaps you can actually read the Democratic platform and let us know how it reflects Democrats in the service of billionaires.
So far, I'm not convinced you have any clear idea what Democrats actually stand for in comparison to Republicans.
Really? You're one of those party loyalists who keeps insisting that Democrats are some sort of monolithic entity. You are loyal to the party no matter what direction they turn, and you seem to be oblivious to the fact that there really are factions within the party, what those factions stand for, and are oblivious to which faction is in control. I frequently get the feeling that you think that terms like 'The New Democrats' are informal buzzwords, because you keep conflating criticism of the New Democrats with criticisms of the Democratic Party in general.
You've waived your silly little pamphlet in my face quite a few times. I tried to have a discussion with you about why many of the people who have become disenfranchised with the direction that the Democratic Party has been going in since the rise of The New Democrats don't find that pamphlet to be very sincere. But you got angry and flipped the chessboard over. And then you came back with the pamphlet in hand, as if we never had that discussion.
Now I gave you a very good article to read, and you just came back with 'Nice dodge', despite the fact that The New Democrat's allegiance to tax cuts, trickle down theory, and corporate sponsors is discussed in the article. That's fucking vapid. You don't really have anything to say about anything other than "Republicans bad; Democrats good". That's just negative partisanship. The problem with negative partisans is that they only care about the other party, and they are completely oblivious to their own. I'm a Democrat. You're just a silly anti-Republican.
No unlike Trumpsters we most certainly are NOT sheep.
But AS VOTERS, and this is the part you keep missing in all this. REGARDLESS of party, a politician is only as effective as the pressure that is put on them to do what you want. So again, in terms of long term history, GOP voters have had long term, every day doing, every day planing, and every day saying, whereas the democrats back then GAVE UP, which forced our politicians to play under the GOP narrative and compete and compromise on their terms.
The "New Democrats" as you so falsely want to use as a slur, are not in it for billionaires, are not in it to turn us into Cuba either.
