RE: On the subject of Hell and Salvation
February 8, 2019 at 1:56 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2019 at 2:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 8, 2019 at 1:50 pm)Yonadav Wrote:It was an issue for the various proto-christian factions at the time. There's alot about christian theology and disputes that expresses a profound ignorance of that tradition....that some christ is actually god itself incarnate being the gorilla in the room..lol...but that doesn't change the fact that it was a pressing matter to them, which required and got resolution. The winning message was the message which spoke to a larger share of the religious market. The tension between those communities is precisely how "paul" came to be branded as the apostle to gentiles and why he wrote "letters" to other communities to that effect. Pauline christianity ultimately emerged as the victor over it's competitors.(February 8, 2019 at 11:43 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: That was the best marketing decision the christian brand ever made. Who wants to snip the tips of their peens off..right? No need to be jewish or get into all those zany jewish rituals. That was limiting growth!
OFC, they had to get rid of the faction that thought you -did-....and somehow square that away with "jesus" comments about not changing jots and tittles....but, that was np. Few clubs to the head here and there, a largely illiterate customer base..hey presto - success!
As to the rest, murder is also a part of christian scoiety..it was foundational to it's creation..and jesus didn't write anything on my heart. I turn away from the bad all by my onesies, part of that is turning away from christianity....so I guess I get a pass on all of the things like any christian might?
If that was a marketing decision, then it was a completely unnecessary one. No one has ever needed to be Jewish to worship the Israelite deity, and the non-Jewish worship of the Israelite deity never had the zany rules about circumcision and such. The Torah says that when a gentile brings an offering to the Temple, their offering was to be accepted.
To consider this a marketing decision, whatever else it may have been, and however poorly or well informed it's precepts were, is a statement that arises from contemporary theories of religion, not on the specifics of judaic traditions or the accuracy of any sect or schism with respect to them.
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