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State Of The Nonsense
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RE: State Of The Nonsense
(February 8, 2019 at 10:03 am)Thoreauvian Wrote: Democrats need a backbone if anything.  Our policies are just fine as far as I can see (until someone actually points out what's specifically wrong with our platform).

Yeah that's the thing globally. The left in the 80s equated the collapse of the Soviet Union and the takeover of the right by Maggie the Milk Thief and Ray-gun as a permanent refutation of all left wing political theory (despite a) Marxism being a utopian dream and not a workable political theory and b) the Soviet Union being effectively closer to feudal oligarchy than anything socialist for at least fifty years) and the permanent victory for right wing unfettered capitalism.

Hence why the likes of Clinton, Bliar and Schrodinger tacked very far to the right on economic issues abandoning their parties' core voters in favour of a chimerical middle class voter who'd vote on social issues (like gay and abortion rights) while refusing to vote on economic ones. When what happened with all three was they were up against an unnecessarily demoralised left and a right that had self destructed in the aftermath of Maggie and Ronnie. They won not because their "third way" was different or attractive but because they were the only ones left standing (and, in fact, Bliar's win in 97 {his wins in 01 and 05 were much reduced and even the Maybot would have beat him both times, that's how bad the Tories were under Michael "all immigrants bar my parents are evil" Howard and Ian "even Howard's parents were evil" Duncan Smith were at the time} was under the guise of him acting like a social democrat in the Jeremy Corbyn mould).

Hence why the Democrats need to hold strong on voter rights, sex rights, reproductive rights, the green new deal and all the other more imaginative and left-wing policies that are being proposed currently. Yes, vet them to within an inch of their lives and discard ruthlessly, but the ones that survive, the ones that will work, do your damnedest to promote. That's what create the long ascendancy of the Democrat left between 32 and 74.
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State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Figbash - February 6, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 9:39 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 9:49 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 10:59 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Drich - February 6, 2019 at 12:45 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by onlinebiker - February 6, 2019 at 10:03 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Pat Mustard - February 6, 2019 at 11:41 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 12:00 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 2:21 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 2:57 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 3:13 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 3:36 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 3:49 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 4:43 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Fake Messiah - February 7, 2019 at 1:18 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Alan V - February 7, 2019 at 5:18 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 7, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Alan V - February 7, 2019 at 9:23 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 7, 2019 at 10:27 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 7, 2019 at 10:36 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 7, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 7, 2019 at 10:48 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Alan V - February 7, 2019 at 1:10 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 7, 2019 at 1:44 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Alan V - February 8, 2019 at 9:13 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by LadyForCamus - February 7, 2019 at 8:53 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 7, 2019 at 9:06 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2019 at 12:04 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Drich - February 6, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Drich - February 6, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 6, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 12:43 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 6, 2019 at 12:50 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 6, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by onlinebiker - February 6, 2019 at 4:33 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by DLJ - February 7, 2019 at 2:52 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Pat Mustard - February 7, 2019 at 6:44 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Dr H - February 7, 2019 at 4:48 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2019 at 9:17 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Alan V - February 8, 2019 at 10:03 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 8, 2019 at 11:12 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Alan V - February 9, 2019 at 9:46 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 11:34 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 9, 2019 at 11:49 am
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 1:08 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Brian37 - February 9, 2019 at 2:54 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 5:23 pm
RE: State Of The Nonsense - by Pat Mustard - February 9, 2019 at 1:44 pm

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