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Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
(February 20, 2019 at 9:42 am)Yonadav Wrote:
(February 20, 2019 at 9:20 am)Brian37 Wrote: I voted for Bernie in the primaries, and Hillary in the general. Bernie ended up supporting Hillary once she got the nomination. BUT that is done and over and we cannot change the past. 

I am sick of BOTH Bernie's supporters and Hillary's supporters clinging to the past. I personally didn't want Bernie to run again, not because of him, the individual, but for the same reason I didn't want Hillary running again this time. BECAUSE of the  shit I am still seeing. The candidates as individuals ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, the lack of unity in supporting the nominee was back then, and will be again.

I cant see Bernie winning the nomination, not because I hate him, or love Hillary, but in that it it is a bigger field and I see someone else like Biden, or Warren or someone else having a better chance. But ultimately division is not an option.

The Supreme Court, should be the biggest issue in 2020. Giving the orange asshole 8 years will fuck things up even worse. 

PLEASE LIBERALS, let go of the past, there is too much at stake to be divided this time around.

Oh fuck off. Bernie shouldn't enter the race because Hillary fucked up what should have been one of the easiest Democratic victories in presidential politics? That's vapid fuckery. You are doing exactly what you claim that you don't want people to do. You are re-litigating 2016 by saying Bernie shouldn't run. Hillary fucked up, so you won't support Bernie. Idiot!

^^^^^^ THIS THIS BULLSHIT right here will give the orange asshole 8 years.

Hillary had her own mistakes, nobody should deny that. But the individuals as candidates SUPPORTED EACH OTHER IN THE GENERAL. 

The real problem were the purist VOTERS in both Bernie and Hillary's camps. The majority of Bernie and Hillary supporters were on the same page. Unfortunately there was just enough of a big enough minority of purists who didn't help.

I voted for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general. 

I really don't give a shit at this point. I don't see Bernie getting the nomination, but that has nothing to do with hating him or loving him. My point is unity is far more important now. 

Because of the asshole purists in BOTH Hillary and Bernie camps the orange asshole has placed two judges on the Supreme Court. Give the orange fucker 8 years and the SCOTUS will be beyond repair.

I had problems with how Hillary ran the last weeks of her campaign. She did take the swing states for granted. And while Tim Kaine was great in his own right, he was not nationally known, and that was a mistake too.

But I am tired of BOTH the supporters of Bernie and Hillary acting as if the individuals themselves hated each other, they did not.

This time around I think it is far more likely someone like Harris or Warren, or Biden if he decides to run, will get the nomination. 

I am a pragmatist, not a purist. Giving the orange turd 8 years is not an option regardless.

And regardless of voting conservative or democrat, far too many voters think of voting as seeking a hero. Politicians are only as good as the support the voters give them. So again, VOTERS not the candidates are ultimately responsible for a win or a loss.
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Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:20 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 9:35 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 21, 2019 at 7:59 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:42 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:14 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:28 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:56 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 9:14 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 10:38 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:57 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 11:07 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:58 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 12:16 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:09 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 12:28 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:17 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:51 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 2:40 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 3:06 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 3:14 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 4:27 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:16 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:20 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Grandizer - February 20, 2019 at 11:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:59 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 12:24 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 6:04 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 6:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by awty - February 20, 2019 at 9:10 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Grandizer - February 20, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm

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