RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 11:19 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2019 at 11:23 am by Yonadav.)
(February 20, 2019 at 10:34 am)DLJ Wrote:(February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am)Brian37 Wrote: It is going to vary from individual just like "atheist" also does not mean we agree on all things all the time.
But as a general description, "liberal" IN GENERAL is someone who values pluralism and values workers stability. There is still going to be disagreement even among liberals as to how to go about fostering that.
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US politics is plagued with weak semantics.
No wonder their media finds it so easy to manipulate muddled minds.
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Tell me about it. I have to live here. Over in the thread about differences between right and left, some of the guys described the left using memes based in right of center talking points against the left as if those talking points described the left. When I laughed at that, one of them doubled down on their confusion by calling me a centrist. I keep running into these very, very confused people who confuse my obviously very, very far left political views with (inexplicably) conservative Republican views. Our 'left' has become inundated with people who are provisionally socially liberal, but fervently support Reagan style economic policies that they deny are Reaganomics.
(February 20, 2019 at 11:07 am)wyzas Wrote:(February 20, 2019 at 10:57 am)Yonadav Wrote: Fly over country? That's country where most Dems aren't viable. Bernie is one of the few who has any chance there at all. Bernie is popular in deeply red places like West Virginia. You aren't thinking clearly. In 2016, Bernie would almost have certainly delivered the rustbelt. The rustbelt didn't go for Trump because they loved Trump. They went for Trump because they wanted to shake things up, and were sick to death of the New Dems. Bernie was a candidate that would have appealed to them, and still does.
Do you live in a deep blue area? You talk like someone who does. People in deep blue areas have an impression of what people think in fly over country that is pretty off base. Left leaning populism has a lot of appeal there.
I live in fly over country. Bernie had almost no appeal here.
I live in the rustbelt that probably would have gone for Bernie. The blue wall would not have crumbled.
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