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Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
(February 20, 2019 at 12:58 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(February 20, 2019 at 12:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: In the general however, if you sit out, or protest vote or hold grudges because your person didn't get the nomination, that is when it becomes a problem for me.

I didn't hold a grudge and I still didn't vote for Hillary. Hillary wasn't my candidate. Lucky for me, I don't care who has a problem with it.

Quote:I don't blame you personally. I do blame dems  AS A CLIMATE not having focus and not thinking long term. 

Yes, the party is a fucking shit show, which is why I didn't vote for one.

Quote:If you can't get 100% of what you want, your ideal perfect candidate, what do you do then?

I vote for the person I want every single time. If they don't win, I move on with my life. I don't vote based on what will tip the scales.

Perfectly legal yes.

But if not voting in the general means someone like Trump, why would that be better?

I do get it. You should vote your conscious. But sometimes the alternative is far worse than sitting out.

The scales are not tipped by one politician. The pendulum changes by long term strategy. 

Republican or democrat, the winner of the office of the President, isn't a dictator, and still has to deal with a house and senate. 

It cant always be about one person, the individual. Change isn't about voting for a single individual. Politics is just like a team sport. You can have the  best QB behind the line (President), but if they have no offensive line(enough in the house and senate) the defense(opposition party) is going to have the QB staring at the sky every play.

Long term strategy matters. 

If Obama had a majority of the House and Senate, for the full 8 years, things would have been even better. He did well for what he had to work with, but things could have been better if he had the support of the majority of Governorships and state houses. 

As Obama put it, "Dont boo, vote".  But he was talking not just about him, but every level.
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Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:20 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 9:35 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 21, 2019 at 7:59 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:42 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:14 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:28 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:56 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 9:14 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 10:38 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:57 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 11:07 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:58 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 12:16 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:09 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 12:28 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:17 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:51 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 2:40 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 3:06 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 3:14 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 4:27 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:16 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:20 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Grandizer - February 20, 2019 at 11:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:59 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 12:24 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 6:04 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 6:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Grandizer - February 20, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm

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