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Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
(February 20, 2019 at 1:41 pm)Yonadav Wrote:
(February 20, 2019 at 1:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, what makes me angry is that people think in terms of utopias.

Outside the issue of politics, even in the cliche of "chasing your dreams", how many people become billionaires vs those who do not? How many people become famous actors vs those who do not? How many people become famous comedians vs those who do not? How many people become famous musicians on par vs the Beatles, vs those who don't become famous? How many pee wee league, highschool players and college players make it to the NFL, vs those who do not?

There is nothing wrong with having a back up plan if you don't get that perfect situation you want.

Bernie WAS my first choice last time. I voted for Hillary because she was my back up plan.

If your back up plan is sitting out, and that ends up allowing a dangerous person to win, that is not a strategy to me.

So why shouldn't Bernie be your first choice this time?   (not that I think that you actually vote in any primaries).

Because it is a different year, different field. And because of the needless divisions I saw last time, AGAIN, not because of him, or Hillary, but because of the big enough minority purists IN BOTH CAMPS.

Liking him is not the issue. I do like him. But he is not the problem. Purist supporters are.

Strategy is my goal. I do not want a repeat of 2016.

I am with Shell in that we need a new crop. But I part company with her and you in saying sitting it out if your pick doesn't get the nomination. 

I will support Bernie if he gets the nomination. But I still fear that the baggage from last time will be a problem. I love him. I love Warren, I love Biden too. 

But again, any winner who becomes President will still need enough support in both chambers to be effective long term. 

AND again, the Judges a President nominates for the Supreme Court outlast both parties knowing they are lifetime appointments. 

Does anyone really want to risk 8 years of Trump being able to fuck that up worse than it already is now?

I look at politics as far as voting this way. Go for what you want, but have a back up plan and long term plan, because life is never perfect. Just like life outside of politics.

Here is what I would have loved to have seen happen last time, but did not.

Hillary/Bernie

Or

Bernie/Hillary

Or Hillary/Warren

Or Bernie/Warren

I think any of those combos and we wouldn't have to puke hearing "President Trump" right now.

We also would not have to have watched the Beer Pong Champion get a seat on the SCOTUS either.

So if Biden gets the nomination, or Bernie gets the nomination, or Warren gets the nomination or Harris gets the nomination or Booker gets the nomination, WHOMEVER, I am going to support anyone of them.

You know that old Stones song, "You can't always get what you want, but if you try some times, you get what you need."

Look at how the GOP operates and thinks. Trump ripped his way through the primaries, but in the end even those he defeated fell in line to put him in office.
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Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:20 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 9:35 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 21, 2019 at 7:59 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:42 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:14 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:28 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:56 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by DLJ - February 20, 2019 at 9:14 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 10:38 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 10:57 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 11:07 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 11:58 am
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by brewer - February 20, 2019 at 12:16 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:09 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 12:28 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Shell B - February 20, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:17 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 1:51 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 2:40 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 3:06 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 3:14 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 4:27 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:16 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:20 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Grandizer - February 20, 2019 at 11:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Cepheus Ace - February 20, 2019 at 11:59 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 12:24 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 6:04 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 6:23 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by awty - February 20, 2019 at 9:10 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Grandizer - February 20, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Yonadav - February 20, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED. - by Brian37 - February 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm

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