(February 20, 2019 at 2:40 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(February 20, 2019 at 1:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Because it is a different year, different field. And because of the needless divisions I saw last time, AGAIN, not because of him, or Hillary, but because of the big enough minority purists IN BOTH CAMPS.
Liking him is not the issue. I do like him. But he is not the problem. Purist supporters are.
Strategy is my goal. I do not want a repeat of 2016.
You are not making any sense. You've repeatedly called me a purist, simply because I won't vote for a candidate that I am opposed to, regardless of party. Getting rid of Bernie doesn't make his supporters any more likely to support a nominee that they are opposed to. It just makes it more likely that they will vote third party. So according to your reasoning, you should initially support him.
You are saying that you are going to refuse to vote for a candidate that you like, just to spite his supporters. That's insane.
Here is what is not going to be the same as 2016. There will be no thumb on the scale for Hillary this time. The party machinery handed West Virginia to Hillary, even though Bernie won there. The 2016 primaries were corrupt, and it has been proven that there was a thumb on the scale for Hillary. So Bernie didn't get a fair shake then, and you want to deny him a fair shake now. Basically, you are reasoning that he shouldn't be given a fair shake now because he didn't get a fair shake then.
If you sit out, or vote third party and Trump gets 8 years, call yourself whatever you want. Justify it however you want. It still means he gets 8 years.
It has nothing to do with the man himself. Bernie is not the problem.
I wanted him to win the nomination last time. He did not. So what was I supposed to do, sit out?
That is why I worry about VOTERS, now.
Has NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM, so fucking knock that shit off.
It has to do with lack of unity from the VOTERS.
I am not worried about his policies. I am worried about VOTERS!
Just like I'd worry if Hillary ran again and Bernie did not. NOT BECAUSE OF THEM, but because of VOTERS!
I can see the same divisions happening this time too. Bernie gets nominated, and say Warren or Biden VOTERS sit out, or Warren or Biden win and Bernie voters sit out.
VOTERS VOTERS VOTERS, not the candidates.
STOP making it about the candidates.