RE: Evolution and Christianity and Salvation
February 27, 2019 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2019 at 11:04 am by Drich.)
(February 26, 2019 at 10:01 am)Jehanne Wrote:(February 25, 2019 at 1:50 pm)Drich Wrote: who says "God" is not an 'alien.' After all He fits the scientific definition. an why not 50 million because 'science' says 3.5 billion years ago. So God,, an extra trestial (not sentient being not of this planet) seeded or created or terriformed this planet with everything it needed to evolve into what it is today and it only took him/his tech or methods 6 days to do it. 6 of his day? six literal earth day or anyother measure of time called a day is not clear. but 6 days by his count was all it took.
I can think this way because I am not a drone who can only look at science as one thing and faith as another. If we live long enough we will see science and faith come together. our ancestors where not stupid they built cities they mapped the stars they came up with philosphy all sorts of universal mathmatics all under their religious beliefs. Any technology to a person without it would appear as magic to them. Perhaps we will understand why jesus spit in the dirt made clay and rubbed it in the blind man's eye to make him see again, or why he told a leper to dunk himself 7 times in the jordan, or why scales fell from pauls eyes it al speaks to thing they do not understand but is certainly our grasp to explain as we become more aware of how God works in this world.
Why not just say that the Cosmos was created by some super alien intelligence last Wednesday to deceive you from believing the real Truth, unless, of course, you pass the "test" of not believing in modern science??
I know you are stuck in 1990's when it comes to creation verse evolution, but there is indeed a movement towards a master creator race of aliens or master designer who seeded this world as it explains alot. if you simply google it science is considering not 'god' wizard supreme but the description of creation and assigning it to a older more advanced race of people. To which I simply ask why can't that master creator alien be god?
(February 26, 2019 at 11:42 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
I may regret this post....
BUT
Fek me but I kind of hope that Drich has to at least work a bit at comming across as so bat-sheet crazy as their posts would seem to make them out to be.
We are talking about how God says he communicates with people in the bible. before I knew the bible I experienced these things. why would you then be surprised that anyone who follows the God of the bible should experience him in the way he himself describes? there are billions of christians about, and rather me being someone who knows a dude who knows a guy who _________ with God.. I am that guy.
(February 26, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: As we all know, no one who has ever believed themselves to be touched and informed by a god has ever been wrong about anything. Here's what I want to know, though, Drich. Since the contents of your posts express "godly wisdom":... then why is your god such a damned idiot? If you really do want people to take the things you say at face value, then you're going to have to confront the fact that when you pray to god, and god answers you, the things that god says are phenomenally ignorant.
I think that most of us would lay culpability for this on you, but you insist otherwise.
Or... maybe you just can't see what I see/I'm doing a poor job of describing what God shows me. The creation thing is flawless, to anyone I can sit down and time line with. Can you argue with my alpha and omega argument as opposed to the omnimax God? Can you argue that God does not love everyone the same? that God is not omnibenevolent?
I honestly think you guys start with the primise that I am ignorant so that when you get lost, or you can not refute what I say you have that excuse to fall back on.
Look at mr thunder cat.. If I were so inepth why have I been correcting his understanding of the church for over a week? EVERYTHING this guy thought about the 1st century church the bible how it was translated was totally wrong.. but at the end all this douche has to say is I'm stupid and he can reset all the wrong stuff he orginally believed and you would gladly return to his side in support..
Now is it because I am ignorant here? or is the sentiment assigned to me so that you all do not have to change what or how you think about the church?
Truthfully look at the crazy stuff he has said and what I had to do to correct him.. all the resources and all the reference material I used to support my work.. what did thundercat have? nothing more than what he thought and his 'word.' and for 3 days with supporting material I was treated as the ignorant one! why? if I can completely support my position? becuse it is a lie you all have to believe inorder to stay with what you believe about God and the church.
You want me to be wrong or ignorant so you do not have to change.
(February 26, 2019 at 3:37 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Is the above gods final answer? What level of consultation went into that response?
3 points of reference to everything I say. just like with this next response and every other for everything I write.. Now I might not put hands on and look everything up each and every time.. for instance I might to a bit on 18th century slavery and look up 3 point of material for an argument that might cross over in a discussion about modern slavery a few weeks later. I won't need to pull the info unless I quote it.
Despite what you all need to tell yourselves I research everything. very rarely will I just tell you what I think without some sort of support.