Evolution and Christianity and Salvation

[Drich]

I do not have a preconception. I just do not believe what theists have claimed.

surly you understand not everything in your life you have proof for is testable by science right?? Science has no idea what consciousness is yet there is not a waking moment you do not enjoy it. We can't even say for sure how love works... yes some try to attribute to chemical changes in the brain but love is far more binding that a chemical bath, the same is true with hate. That is just in your own little field of experiences. That said God does not require endless faith either. God gives us all a mustard seed's worth of faith. a small amount where we choose to put it in. whether that be with God or with in this case man.

People have been polarized no in betweens when it come to church and science. to the point they make movies about it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God%27s_Not_Dead_(film)

This is a film that describes much of the scholastic climate towards people of faith and 'science. where a man of faith is ridiculed and fails his class because he will not deny God, and while you may try and poo poo on the level of personal hate the professor has toward people of faith, this is how a large portion of the world see people of science. something you claim does not exist.

This film is a propaganda that misrepresents both science and education. particularly in one of the most heavily theocratic countries in the world. Remember that in the US it is the atheists who face discrimination from the theists.

propaganda for whom? The move give christians hope in their belief so they can coexist with people who think less of them for their beliefs. how is that propaganda? or is that a term you do not understand? is it ow just a pop culture word that means one sided?

again this may not repersent everyone but many do experience this and feel this way. Look at this web site and just look at how you all react to christians no matter how nice they are. Catholic Lady being a good example of a well meaning well tempered person who came here looking for people she could simply be friends with, and look at how she was received and ultimately left! you can't tell me people of science are not polarized in their belief. if you believe this you are lying to yourself.

Your "collecting data" seems to be all anecdote and nothing that actually consistutes anything even beginning to resemble evidence.

you are an intellectually dishonest liar if this is what you believe. I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN AND DOES PROVIDES LINKS TO EVERYTHING EVERYTHING I DISCUSS. You all use you own names as 'proof' of content. while I use actual articles and text. there is no one else on this web site who quote more source material than I do. Second reason why? I am despite what you people tell yourself a engineer by trade and business owner. As a course of natural action I always look everything up and note it when ever anything is created implimented or changed. as I always look back and want to know who and why something I designed or is in current production has changed! as a matter of course I always look up any subect I discuss. usally by the rule of three meaning I always have three sources.. So tell me again you have enugh evidence on me to make the assertion I do not understand science. then I will ask for your proof.

This shows you have failed in everything in your lat post. which means you are beyond stupid or you are so emotionally driven to the point, you should not be speaking to anyone one about anything scientific. as your truth is defined by how you feel and not vetted fact.

I am not emotionally driven as I couldn't give a toss whether atheism is true or theism is true it just so happen that there atheism is the only stance that is possible to a thinking person in the modern world.

caucasian please.. in the realm of science (what yo experience and what every other douche (who doesn't know how their computers work/or anything else) you consumers you witnesses of 'science' don't lend yourselves to put thought ito anything. YOU ARE TOLD BY PEOPLE LIKE ME WHAT TO THINK BECAUSE WE SAID SO. fancy yourself a think man do ya squirt? Show me YOUR Work on evolution (not what others said or think show me the results of your ORIGINAL EXPERIMENTS the work you've done on matter and energy show me something other than your consumer status and I might be inclined to agree you have contributed something in the way of thought. Otherwise know there is nothing different between you and some little post high school kid sitting in a class room being indoctrinated somewhere in china or north korea.. You are taught be design how to only accept information if it come prepackaged a certain way it must be vetted and certified through certain channels.. which is why the news kept saying it was the uneducated who elected trump. meaning it was everyone who would not accept the national narrative/pre packaged information they where told to accept. You are no different with the 'science' you have no connction to aside from taking on faith what you are told is true. Do me a favor and read this next bit aloud: Baaaaa Baaaaaa (you know the sound a sheep makes)

However on God's side, he say it does take a measure of faith but if you give that faith to him you can ask anything of him and he will move mountains of doubt to ensure you know what you believe is true. From then one what you become will be a matter of your own limitations and ablity to remain faithful to God.

As you have never presented anything that counts as evidence you are a bit cheeky in claiming "Stacks of it".

I provided so much evidence that if this where a trial You'd be put to death on my word. but that is not what you are looking for is it? you want the paradoxical evidence that one given disprooves God.

Sorry sport God does not work that way. (kinda a net result of being smarter than you sciency types.)

You have not shown my faulty logic,

Indeed I have when I showed you where attempting to make a scientific assertion to my ability to reason in a scientific way, yet you exclude any of the tell tale markers of research or unemotional reasoning. In fact the sum total of your scientific knowledge seems to begin and end with your "word" which seems to be based on sterotypical insults and other forms of trolling.

I don't think you know what logic is and as to my lack of intellectual activity I can only assume that my lofty thoughts are just to rarefied for your limited mental capacity to comprehend.

lofty thought... without the tell tale signs of research or higher reasoning. you cite nothing your make no examples you just charge or accuse. everything is off the cuff, everything is polarized if I say the sky is blue you would say it was black If I say yes you say no... there is not thought in any of that there is no reasoning just oppsition.. My intellectually slow friend this is not signs of a 'lofty intellect.'

Have I called you names?

I call you names because honestly I do not even know which one of you I am speaking with at the moment. If you got an average of 10 to 20 hate mails aday and felt like you had to answer each one line by line.. you'd forget who was who from time to time and just speak of the truth written on page. You are just another voice needing to be broken down a little more till you are ready to hear something different, So I go through these motions till you wear yourself out and are ready to discus the truth.. then you get to be a person again.

I don't remember calling you names, but then these little posts between us are not something I care to retain. I will forget this in a minute.

who are you again? Down beaten plumb.. yes you have made remarks just look at the next paragraph and then look at your last post. same lazy attempt that i called you one back then!

You do seem to have very limited knowledge on practically every sphere of human learning though, biology, history, science and chemistry your ignorance seems to be unrestrained.

what a douche did I not just call you out on doing this very same thing?!?!? You have made no effort in determining my cognitivablities let alone test me in any consistent way as to determine how far my knowledge in any of those subjects are.. the fact that this is your second attempt even after me telling you of this mistake you are compelled beyond reasoning to use the very same insult is telling of your psyche.. You are projecting your greatest fear/insults onto me.. in that these are the areas you would be obliterated if I could prove you inepth in. Otherwise why bring them up a second time after I had already shown you have done no testing to support any of those charges!!!

This is lazy parenting at best.. maybe this is how your dad reigned you in but this is not going to work here with me sport. maybe you need to just bully your kids with that unfounded crap as no one here is going for it.

Proof sport your digs lack support and proof. do you see how I reference what you say show how you fail and back it up with working examples to prove your failure? That is how smart analytical people work and do things.. Slow emotional people just point to people and list out negative qualities with no rhyme or reason, it is just words to then that create a negative vibe or emotion.. for instance, again nothing you said proved I lacked in any of the areas of education. you just randomly listed fundamentals of basic learning.. again as an emotional attack or dig.. meaning your prize the effect of bring negative feelings over fact which conclusively show you are not analytical/science minded person..

check.