Evolution and Christianity and Salvation

[Drich]

Consiousness/brain activity can be monitored with scientific equipment.

glob..
monitoring activity is not the same as understanding how or what or why consciousness is.
https://philosophynow.org/issues/121/Can...sciousness
https://qz.com/708632/science-cant-total...ever-will/
https://www.livescience.com/47096-theori...sness.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...e-says-yes
three current articles explain science can not full explain consciousness. argument over. Science can not reconcile every aspect of humanity yet you think it is ready to catalog God?

We can't even say for sure how love works... yes some try to attribute to chemical changes in the brain but love is far more binding that a chemical bath, the same is true with hate. That is just in your own little field of experiences.

And yet love and hate are both well understood both in their cause, effect and even the reason s for their evolution.

but again despite the trivial psychobabble we may assign to love and hate there still is not scientific understanding of how it exist.
Again you are missing the point intentionally for the minushia of splitting hairs. you claim science can and is big enough for a subject like God when in fact with all we know our Id our deepest selves we do not fully understand...

What's more if you read those articles some refer to consciousness as our "soul." looks like science is comming full circle.

That said God does not require endless faith either. God gives us all a mustard seed's worth of faith. a small amount where we choose to put it in. whether that be with God or with in this case man.

Not me, I have never believed for a second in a god.

retard What I mean is God gives us all an equal amount of faith ok say faith is a seed, that one can plant in a given world view and when you plant it that faith will develop and grow. Now either we can take this seed and plant it with God or we can plant it with what we think we know. Meaning in the beginning before we decide on a world view it takes an equal effort to either believe God or the world.

propaganda for whom? The move give christians hope in their belief so they can coexist with people who think less of them for their beliefs. how is that propaganda? or is that a term you do not understand? is it ow just a pop culture word that means one sided?

It is blatant pro Christian propaganda that perpetuates a few lies. First it tries to paint Christians as the oppressed when in fact in the US where the film is set they are not only the majority but the countries main oppressor.
It tries to paint denial of god as hatred of god. I don't hate god. I don't think there is one.

look on this board moron the same thing happens here. Remember catholic lady and just about every other christian that was here last year? They left, why? because of how nasty all of you are towards Christians. they even tried to get me to leave with them as a point of protest. because people could just say slanderous things against them and there was no recourse.

I liked Catholic Lady, we got on well. She was always considered and thoughtful even though I thought she was wrong in her beliefs she was able to support them to a much higher level than some here and I don't think you could characterise how I interacted as abrasive. You get what you give with me.

do you seriously think yu are the only person here? that your response is that of everyone who shares your views? If not then why are you pretending your efforts is why she left? are you playing stupid the real thing or avoiding conceding to my point any and every way you can?

Although it is true that I have not studied to a large extent physics or biology beyond what is taught at school I know that I could test these for myself. If I was so driven I could study and check the facts because they are all laid down and peer reviewed. With theism though you just have to accept that the religion is true. And that would be bad enough, but I have read the bible and it is ludicrous, I mean a talking snake persuades a woman to eat an apple that somehow gives her knowledge AND it turns out knowledge is a bad thing. There are  many many more laugh out loud silly moments but that possibly the first one that actually gets a titter.

You do not have to just accept by faith God is real that is the biggest lie against christianity ever told. God said we are given the smallest amount of faith and if we can give it to him he would move mountains to provide you with the proof you needed to establish and maintain a relationship with him.. Surly you have read some of the things he has dne for me... I am not special what he did for me is offered to anyone who can put their faith in him just for a little while.

I don't remember calling you names, but then these little posts between us are not something I care to retain. I will forget this in a minute.

who are you again? Down beaten plumb.. yes you have made remarks just look at the next paragraph and then look at your last post. same lazy attempt that i called you one back then!

You do seem to have very limited knowledge on practically every sphere of human learning though, biology, history, science and chemistry your ignorance seems to be unrestrained.

That isn't name calling that is an accurate assessment of your capabilities.

brother again based on what??? you have done NO credible testing to come to those conclusions... therefore that is empty name calling. What don't you understand about that? If you do not have proof of your charge then your charge is nothing more than a school yard taunt!!!

what a douche did I not just call you out on doing this very same thing?!?!? You have made no effort in determining my cognitivablities let alone test me in any consistent way as to determine how far my knowledge in any of those subjects are..

I don't need to.

you do because you can not possibly know the context from which every conversation you jump into the middle of began. you can not possibly track ever line of reasoning every point of reference. I can't and I read it all. I have to take notes.. None of the 1/2 assed effort you have put into calling me names even comes closes to be able to accurately judge whether I am incapable or not. Again with out some structured basis your assessment is just a lazy intellect's way of dismissing someone without the actual work. Which makes you dishonest and deceitful.

You quite freely give of your ignorance everyday. I don't catch all of it but some is really quite staggering in its utter stupidity and lack of understanding on basic things.

cite something, I dare you to find something and quote it and see If I can not produce at least three references to support my view. Do you want to know where our problem lies? you see you self an an intelligent individual and you are judging me by your own limited understanding of how the church and world works. and when I go into a subject deeper than you can you wrongfully assume I reasoning is at fault... otherwise quote something I dare you show me where I am wrong or ignorant about a given subject. (try something new because anything old will only proove your cognitive limitations and stunted ability to learn past what you think you already know.)I promise you, you can not find one.how do I know?? because again everything I discuss outside of my personal testimony is always backed up with legit source material.

the fact that this is your second attempt even after me telling you of this mistake you are compelled beyond reasoning to use the very same insult is telling of your psyche..

It was not meant as an insult, just an observation.

citation.. show me what you have observed to bring you to this conclusion.. Specifically! Show me quote me do something beside accuse me without cause! As that makes you far too easy of mark to obliterate.

You are projecting your greatest fear/insults onto me.. in that these are the areas you would be obliterated if I could prove you inepth in. Otherwise why bring them up a second time after I had already shown you have done no testing to support any of those charges!!!

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This is lazy parenting at best.. maybe this is how your dad reigned you in but this is not going to work here with me sport. maybe you need to just bully your kids with that unfounded crap as no one here is going for it.

Its at around this point I started to realise that Drich was off his meds.

again insult without provocation. I don't even take blood pressure meds. what meds are you referring,or is this more lazy judgement?
calling someone or telling someone they are lacking in a cognitive area without proof is again just amecalling. maybe in you house hold you saw this on a daily basis.. maybe you dad called you names as a way to vent his anger and disappointment to you and in turn you took up this practice and apply it to people who offend you or frustrate you.. You don't feel the need to justify your poor judge of character because you are not worried about being factually correct, but seek a emotional charge and satasfaction of simply belittling what angers you.. Other wise why keep returning to this well of unfounded name calling.. again I ask for a citation if you think this is based in fact!

Proof sport your digs lack support and proof. do you see how I reference what you say show how you fail and back it up with working examples to prove your failure? That is how smart analytical people work and do things.. Slow emotional people just point to people and list out negative qualities with no rhyme or reason, it is just words to then that create a negative vibe or emotion.. for instance, again nothing you said proved I lacked in any of the areas of education. you just randomly listed fundamentals of basic learning.. again as an emotional attack or dig.. meaning your prize the effect of bring negative feelings over fact which conclusively show you are not analytical/science minded person..

I can almost feel the heat of his skin as he works himself into a lather. I  imagine he has a small amount of froth just on the left of his lip

no heat just enjoyment of smashing the opposition using the same tools and tactics used against christians. Matter of fact I am a little cold and robotic when it comes to redirecting.. like when I a about to point out I was asking for citation last thread to prove how inept you claim I was and now it seems I am being accused of being in a rage or angry..

I like you all simply know when his opponent is on his heels and falling back to hit the mat hard. I am just pouring on the same pressure you all use against us in the way of proof and citation fact and quotations to prove your positions. like wise I am taking the same road to disprove not only your integrity but you own ability to use logic and reason in a conversation. not only that I am happy to expose the root of all of this is being your emotion and pride.. pride in the fact that you think someone like yourself can always best a man of faith.

I tell you this.. no matter who gets the last word here, your personal take away from this conversation will be that it does not matter which side of God you stand on. your intellectual 'superiority' is not guaranteed. So before you write the first line of your next post know i will be not nice to you if you cannot produce the citations, facts and quotations I have asked for. also you might want to do more than one unless you want to eat crown from the start.