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Cardinal George Pell.
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"I never knew that the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" came with a bucket of exception clauses."


Doesn't need exemption clauses. The commandment actually reads 'thou shalt commit no murder"

Really, really handy, gives LOTS of wiggle room:

The Torah is the mythology and rule book of nomads, at a time when the words for 'stranger' and 'enemy' were synonyms .

Mosaic law was very harsh EG the death penalty for not not respecting the sabbath, for committing adultery ,and of course a father had the right to kill a disrespectful child.

The killing mentioned above was not considered murder.

Conveniently, neither was war ;That came in real handy when the Hebrews reached Caanan, and killed all of the inhabitants, so they could steal their land.

Every religion reflects the culture which invents it.

The post industrial consumer society in which we live makes it necessary for today's Christians to cherry pick scripture to fit in with their way of life; most definitely not the other way round. hypocrites. Absolutely; who isn't? The Christians I run across are simply a lot more skilled tham others




" Exodus 20:13 (KJV)
Thou shalt not kill.

Many political statements have been made about this verse. This translation has been used by many to support their pacifist desires. However, it seems that most translations have dropped "kill" in favor of "murder". "

Exodus 20:13 (NKJV)
You shall not murder.

https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/q...t-not-kill


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Killing vs. Murder

To begin with, what does it mean to “kill”? Taken most literally, this would forbid killing animals for food or even plants for food. That seems implausible, however, because the Hebrew scriptures contain extensive descriptions about how to properly go about killing for food and that would be strange if killing were forbidden. More significantly is the fact that there are many examples in the Old Testament of God commanding the Hebrews to kill their enemies — why would God do that if this were a violation of one of the Commandments?

Thus, many translate the original Hebrew word ratsach as “murder” instead of “kill.” This may be reasonable, but the fact that popular lists of the Ten Commandments continue to use “kill” is a problem because if everyone agrees that “murder” is more accurate, then the popular lists — including those often used for government displays — are simply wrong and misleading. In fact, many Jews regard the mistranslation of the text as “kill” to be immoral in and of itself, both because it falsifies the words of God and because there are times when one has an obligation to kill.

https://www.thoughtco.com/sixth-commandm...ill-250905
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Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - February 26, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2019 at 5:22 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Abaddon_ire - February 26, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Brian37 - February 26, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Fake Messiah - February 27, 2019 at 2:03 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Brian37 - March 1, 2019 at 10:59 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Little lunch - March 1, 2019 at 5:22 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Acrobat - March 1, 2019 at 6:50 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Abaddon_ire - March 1, 2019 at 7:20 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Acrobat - March 1, 2019 at 8:43 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 1, 2019 at 11:13 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Godscreated - March 2, 2019 at 4:54 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Fake Messiah - March 2, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 2, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Godscreated - March 4, 2019 at 2:29 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 4, 2019 at 3:56 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Little lunch - March 4, 2019 at 4:32 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Godscreated - March 5, 2019 at 2:27 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Abaddon_ire - March 8, 2019 at 3:18 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Godscreated - March 9, 2019 at 2:33 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Abaddon_ire - March 9, 2019 at 3:27 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Godscreated - March 11, 2019 at 1:14 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 4, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 7, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 8, 2019 at 3:42 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Cod - March 9, 2019 at 4:44 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 9, 2019 at 5:31 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Fake Messiah - March 9, 2019 at 12:45 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Abaddon_ire - March 9, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 9, 2019 at 10:06 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Amarok - March 9, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2019 at 1:19 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 12, 2019 at 1:22 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by Godscreated - March 13, 2019 at 1:03 am
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 12, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2019 at 9:50 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by fredd bear - March 12, 2019 at 10:14 pm
RE: Cardinal George Pell. - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2019 at 2:00 pm

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