(March 8, 2019 at 1:17 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Early christians absolutely did not realize any such thing. There was bitter division on the issue - entire subgroups of christians were executed. Hypostatic union was a political compromise between them. In effect, it was decided that both camps were "fully right" so that they could stop killing each other and poaching adherents in the zero sum game of christian authority.I'm not saying that there were no bloody gains, differing of opinions have led to far worse. Your summation that there was a cease fire until the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople for the purpose of growing the body of believers though is a bit of a perfunctory miss. Your post misses the obvious that there are several historical meetings that concede to the 100% divinity and 100% manhood of Jesus Christ, which has fed into modern cannon. There is no rule saying you can't be 100% a father and 100% a brother, and 100% an sexy beast to boot and you're trying to create a false dichotomy where one doesn't exist. Jesus was 100% man and 100% God at the same time.
(March 8, 2019 at 7:47 pm)fredd bear Wrote:I disagree, because Christ Jesus was the Word incarnate and existed before the world began according to scripture. Adam and eve were not the first created without sin. Jesus grew in physically, experiential-ly and in knowledge after being incarnated into Human. He had 2 distinct natures that were capable of defying God's will (hence the take this cup from me) but never did, hence the value of resisting temptations and sin. I never said Jesus couldn't sin, just that He didn't. I don't believe Jesus possessed the seed of original sin because He existed before it and because no sin can exist in a 100% divine Son of God. He was not cursed to toil as were Adam and his descendants. Nor, was He cursed to be incapable to break the bonds of that original sin.
@Brian37 - He didn't survive, He died. The question was does He decompose, to which I answered probably not, but His body is gone so idk really. Incorruptibility is an unexplained phenomenon still.
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