@Gae Bolga I agree the camps representing both visions of Christ were very much distinct from each other, but they ended up getting grafted together in the fullness of time due to compelling interests. I just disagree with your interests. Marcionites, Gnostics and even Ebionites are all still pretty heretical today. Can't we take good from the bad? We do this every day. A lot of the best lies contain truth, and those groups methodology was to reject certain scripture. I believe there are differing denominations by design. Each part preserving some truth but none grasping the whole. It's the denominations that reject scriptures and focus on what divides us that give a poor name to the word Christian.
I wasn't trying to understand the wrong phenomena. I was attempting to explain a presumed paradox you establised
I wasn't trying to understand the wrong phenomena. I was attempting to explain a presumed paradox you establised
(March 8, 2019 at 10:51 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:The fact that your moving the goalposts now to say it's not that they are paradoxical but because "there is no resolution to that because there was no christ" and then moving on to why and how the belief solidified in a newly formed body of believers is a minor point (and a bit disingenuous, IMO) but it was my main one. I wouldn't deny that people fuddled with understanding the Creator's nature during the foundation of what we now call Christianity. I also won't claim that we all have it all right 2000 years later. My only point, and the only reason I stepped into another's conversation, was to say that the 2 natures aren't paradoxical.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari