(March 18, 2019 at 2:49 pm)robvalue Wrote: Everyone probably already thinks I’ve gone crazy, so I may as well explain things.
I personally remember "lion and lamb" and have never ever heard anything about a wolf. This is all second hand, though. To me, the culture has been entirely permeated with the lion. References to it are everywhere: in media, statues, direct quotes on the internet, even one article quoting lion with a link right next to it that shows you it’s actually wolf.
A lot of people will swear blind that they literally learned parts of the bible by heart, and that it said lion. It’s amazing how this "mistake" has gone unchecked for so long. I’ve never once heard anyone challenge it (although I don’t have religious folks around me much, to be fair.)
It’s not just this, either. There’s many other things in the bible people will swear are different to when they memorised it. And I don’t just mean different on the internet, different in all the books. Some examples (although I can get more):
"Wine skins" has become "bottles"
"Matrix", "stuff" and even an emoticon have come out of nowhere into the text
The Lord’s Prayer says "which art in heaven", not "who are in heaven"
And so on.
This leaves me with three explanations:
1) There have been innocent myths about the bible, which have become so pervasive that they have screwed with the memories of millions of people, even those who learnt verses by heart, and the incorrect text somehow never managed to push back.
2) There has been one or more psychological operations run to coerce people into misremembering.
3) People aren’t misremembering and the text has actually been changed (the Mandela effect).
The problem here is that all three of these are seemingly ludicrous explanations. I am open minded so I don’t instantly rule anything out, but the problem with the ME (besides being "supernatural") is that it’s untestable. Some who support the ME think that people at CERN have found a way to fuck with reality and are experimenting.
I don’t believe any of those 3, as they’re all extremely weak and convoluted. That leaves me with nothing. It’s extremely interesting, at least.
This is one of many videos I’ve found where someone who believes it is the ME has investigated. I think the results are very interesting and worth hearing. It’s a conversation with a pastor who has supposedly read the text before and says it was lion.
Lastly, and hilariously, there are many people trying to debunk the ME relating to this. Obviously doing so is as fruitless as trying to prove it. The fact they are trying, despite making them look stupid, is somewhat suspicious to some people. The funniest thing of all is that I found such a video, looking entirely serious, on a channel called "lion and lamb ministries".
Thank you for anyone who made it through my nonsense!
(March 18, 2019 at 2:16 pm)tackattack Wrote: I stand corrected, but you did say from memory and I'm old and distracted. Was there a question or confusion about the passage?
The whole question is whether you really did remember wrong, or not. Like you say, it was in a song. I doubt you got that part wrong, it’s probably all over songs as much as anything else.
Lion and the lamb has a better ring to it, it's been used in songs etc... So it's not surprising we remember the catchy tunes over the actual verse.
And it's not really wrong either, the lion browsing with the calf, and the wolf being a guest of the lamb, are analogous. So switching out the lion and the wolf here expresses the same point. The entire passage appears to be about some future peaceable kingdom, absent of the hostility and violence of ours, even in nature.
