RE: New Zealand Bans Assault Weapons
March 21, 2019 at 11:03 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2019 at 11:06 pm by EgoDeath.)
(March 21, 2019 at 10:31 pm)Nakara Wrote: I'm not so naive to think that bans like this will prevent every disaster, but I honestly have to wonder why anyone would need a weapon capable of mowing down dozens of people. I can think of no situation where it might be necessary in day-to-day living. These aren’t exactly the kind of weapon you’d walk around with for self-defense.
So I don’t see how this hurts the average citizen—yes criminals will find ways to acquire these weapons illegally, but at least it can’t be done as easily as before. They have to take more steps, riskier steps, more chances to get caught.
It’s not a fix-all solution—there’s no such thing for this issue. But there’s also absolutely no need for people to be able to but a weapon whose sole purpose is to kill many, quickly.
I agree completely. Some of the weapons these people have here in the States are just ridiculous.
(March 21, 2019 at 10:47 pm)fredd bear Wrote: "Our attitudes tend to be along the lines that no one living in in one of our cities needs a firearm.
And you're allowed to think that. "
-and you have poof of that patronising claim? IE that we are mistaken about how we see our own country?
What's with the attitude? I'm literally just saying you're allowed to think what you want. Chill the fuck out dude. Maybe in NZ and Australia that attitude makes total sense - and that's fine. I'm literally saying, "you're allowed to think that."
(March 21, 2019 at 10:47 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Again, Oz is not the US.Um.. I'm well aware that "Oz" is not the US.
(March 21, 2019 at 10:47 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Perhaps spend some time here before making fatuous claims about my country, and our society.
Once again, you need to chill. No one made "fatuous claims" about your country or your society. Take the stick out of your ass.
(March 21, 2019 at 10:47 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Don't care how the US is seen by other countries, don't look at the links.
I'm well aware of statistics like this. It's a sad situation we have here. Not sure why you're getting into some pissing match about who is safer. No one is claiming the state of things here in America is good.
Chill the fuck out dude.
I literally said I'm glad to see NZ act so swiftly and implied I'd like to see the same type of swift action taken in the States. If anything, I admire NZ for this decision. Who the fuck shit in your cereal?
(March 21, 2019 at 11:01 pm)no one Wrote: If you took all the guns away tomorrow, people would still kill each other. Yes, guns make it easier to produce mass casualties, but so do explosives. People have killed each other since people have been on the planet. They will continue to do so. A gun, is just a tool. Guns aren't the problem, people are.
The sentiment behind this thinking is totally undeniable. However, I think it's an overly simplistic view that doesn't quite paint the full picture. I agree though, simply taking guns away wouldn't do anything. People here in the US would probably rebel to the point where the military would have to get involved. Granted, that's pure speculation, but i think you'd be a bit naive to suggest otherwise. For better or worse, we have a serious pro-gun culture here in the States and the gun-nuts mean it when they say "over my dead body."
An all-out ban on firearms will NEVER happen in the States, at least not in our lifetime or our grandchildren's lifetime. However, as I've said before, very, very few people actually suggest an all-out ban. All the more reason why it'll never happen; no one actually wants an all-out ban. This is mostly propaganda spread by the right that liberals want to "take the guns away."
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