RE: New Zealand Bans Manifesto
March 23, 2019 at 8:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 23, 2019 at 8:39 pm by Brian37.)
(March 23, 2019 at 8:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:(March 23, 2019 at 8:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not a matter of letting the wackos speak or not speak, it is a matter of not letting someone print instructions on how to build pipe bombs.You can watch any of a number of true crime shows and find out what can be used as poison, which are hardest to detect, and if it's a one dose thing or an accumulation over time thing.
Again, there is a huge difference between allowing offensive speech, and the completely separate issue of stopping incitement to violence.
Again, the Nazis are not lacking in representation in the Holocaust Museum. But Mein Kampf was an instruction manual for genocide.
You can still find the Unibomber's manifesto if you want to read it, but it isn't printed en mass as an advertisement for a Caribbean Cruise.
NZ was not trying to silence dissent in this, they were trying to stop more violence. Just like you don't mass copy instructions on how to make poison.
Who decides what is to be censored? What are the guidelines for making that decision?
Your 'facts' tend to be how you think things should be, not how they are.
Huge difference between mere entertainment and selling the advocating violence in a serious manor beyond entertainment.
Huge difference between expressing real history, IE "The Holocaust Museum" and putting out deliberate propaganda like Mein Kampf which has the express intent to marginalize, dehumanize and advocate for the elimination of your fellow human being.
Today we keep Mein Kampf as a reminder of what not to do, but when it was written, it should have been back then, responded to with the same scorn today we rightfully would aim at those who lynched blacks and used politics and law to do so.
But you are right, "Who gets to decide" is a hard issue.
I would only say there are points in history where it is not as ambiguous and those with empathy and compassion step in.
Imagine if there were more sane than desperate hungry people in Germany when Hitler wrote that vile book, if those people told him to fuck off and refused to print it?
