RE: Do you wish there's a god?
March 30, 2019 at 8:05 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2019 at 8:06 am by Acrobat.)
(March 30, 2019 at 7:35 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(March 29, 2019 at 8:00 pm)Acrobat Wrote: We experience it as self-evident, as self-evident as the existence of other minds outside our own
(March 30, 2019 at 7:28 am)Acrobat Wrote: Judging that you accused me of defending flying planes into buildings, I don't think it's matter of poor thinking on my part, but an incapacity to read on yours.
Where did I misread you on this? Exactly how is what you said an argument that moral realism is in any way necessarily dependent upon theism?
And I'll simply point out that your belief that it is a result of something other than poor thinking on your part may simply reflect more poor thinking on your part.
This is what I said
"Sure if an atheist, sees conceptions like the existence of a moral reality, an arc of a moral universe, of moral laws that exist as “intrinsic laws of the cosmos built into the heart of reality.” “a good that’s the source of all things right and true, etc…”, as beliefs dependent on some form of theism, then it should go without saying that their atheism requires a rejection of these very things. Believing in them undermines their disbelief.
Some atheists view the existence of a moral reality, of reality possessing moral properties, as teleological, and telelogy implies the existence of God, and since God does not exist, all teleological aspects of reality are to be denied or rejected as false.
Now you may not be such an unbeliever, but that’s beside the point."
Where here did I say that the whole class of moral realism, or even moral realism requires the existence of God, as you suggested?