RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 5, 2019 at 10:01 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2019 at 10:28 am by Mister Agenda.)
(April 3, 2019 at 9:38 pm)Belaqua Wrote: I said that people here use it as a standard to make judgments, and that, therefore, they believe in something.
Would you point out somewhere here, please, who would agree that they claim not to have any beliefs at all? I've occasionally run into persons on other forums who think theists taint the word 'believe' so much as to make it practically unfit for use, but in this context, 'think' means the same thing as 'believe'.
(April 3, 2019 at 11:34 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I was raised surrounded by religion. All kinds of religion. Religion coming out the demonhole. Just never believed any of it. I would have, and did, tell them that I just didn't believe any of it. I used to use the occassion to tell them about what other religions thought along the same line of questioning, especially novel shit. That's how I learned that no one has as little patience for religion as the religious.
In retrospect, I should have been an anthropologist. So I did the next best thing and married one, lol. Atheism is an irreducible fact of who I've always been, but it was my curiosity about mythology and how it circumscribes a culture that made me a gnostic atheist.
Not trying to start anything, but that really sounds like one of your reasons for not believing was contradictory theistic claims. Not finding such claims believable isn't 'no reason', IMHO, though you may have been too young to articulate why you found them unbelievable at the time.
(April 4, 2019 at 8:28 am)Belaqua Wrote: It's frustrating when someone says "Christians believe X," and I know for a fact that Augustine, Aquinas, Dante, Nicholas of Cusa, Jacob Boehme, and William Blake all didn't believe that. I have been told straight out that when someone says "Christian," they only want to talk about the dumb ones.
Right Wing Christian Fundamentalists aren't just low-hanging fruit. They're a threat to civil society and democratic governance, because they believe in a God that gives them marching orders. A conception of God that that's so abstract that it doesn't give commands or revelations is usually held by people that don't think the founders intended an officially Christian nation or that freedom of religion only applies to the different Christian denominations. Someone who isn't using or abusing their scriptures to further their political agenda isn't much of a problem for me. The only reason to argue with them is for the mental exercise, I don't care if what someone means by God is 'the ground of all being', I care if they want to force women to complete dangerous pregnancies.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.