(April 6, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Succubus Wrote:(April 6, 2019 at 9:17 am)Brian37 Wrote: This is a risk. If I push it, it could make things worse, if I don't push it, it could also get worse. I know this person well, and the people this person if finding comfort in may not get her the clinical help they really need.
Brian, with respect you do seem to thrive on drama and it's usually drama of your own making, you can't fight all the worlds wrongs but you appear to be doing just that. Yes some years in your life have evidently been pretty fucking miserable but hay we all have our stories to tell.
Instead of raging against the machine why not become part of the solution and take some sort of course in counselling that way it may become easier to express empathy with those you choose to help. You don't have to become a Harley street psychiatrist, just a good listener but first you must stop being so judgemental. Yes, religion is crabs on the balls of civilisation but constantly raving about it won't help you or those you are trying to help.
Choose your battles. Know when to walk away.
Theism thrives on drama. Theism is simply the Jerry Springer of antiquity. I am not trying to right all the wrongs in the world for simply pointing out bad logic, and being concerned with someone close to me.
I do choose my battles. I will certainly take a Martin Luther King Jr, and a Malala or an Ann Frank. But we are not talking about that. I am talking about mental illness. And regardless family or friends, I have seen how religion can and does negatively affect the mentally ill.
I doubt you could get the survivors of Jim Jones, or Heaven's gate to argue, "Meh, what are you going to do."
I do know this person and even without joining a cult, or a terrorist group, which I do not think they would, I do know that their mental health issues could cause them to make it worse. This person is a very kind and empathetic person. I simply see them as vulnerable and being feed bad logic in the form of platitudes and cliches that will not help the core issues they have.