RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 8:42 am
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 8:46 am by Acrobat.)
(April 9, 2019 at 8:23 am)robvalue Wrote:(April 9, 2019 at 8:18 am)Acrobat Wrote: So is 1+1 =2 objectively true? Or subjective?
Is the wrongness of torturing innocent babies just for fun, objectively true, or subjective opinion? If it's a subjective opinion, should i take it when you say it's wrong to torture innocent babies just for fun, you're just stating a personal taste or opinion, like telling me dominos pizza tastes bad?
I already answered these questions. The first is objectively true with respect to a particular abstract system which says it’s true. It might not be true in another.
The second is subjectively true. I take my morality more seriously than pizza, but if you want to insist all kinds of subjects relating to opinions are equivalent, then that’s fine.
I can make torturing babies objectively immoral, if I want, by defining immoral in a certain way.
This is my point. Words represent vague ideas.
I have two apples on the tables, (One plus One equals Two). This is true or regardless of whatever abstract system you use, or whatever words you want to use, whether in english Spanish, etc.
Regardless, when it comes to your view of wrongness of torturing innocent babies just for fun, you see it as subjective. The meaning of subjective, implies that you're stating your likes, preferences or opinions, or taste. Or in other words to say its subjectively wrong is just another way of saying that it's wrong simply because Rob doesn't like it.
And this if false of course unless you want to be dishonest about it. If you're telling your children it's wrong to steal, or lie, what you're not saying is that it's wrong because you don't like it, but that there is something truly wrong about these things, and thats why they ought not do them. So come on stop fooling yourself, by believing your own nonsense.
(April 9, 2019 at 8:30 am)pocaracas Wrote: If torturing a baby for fun was objectively wrong, then it wouldn't ever be done...
Let alone by other children...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
That's like saying if the holocaust was objectively true, then no one would believe in holocaust conspiracies. In fact those who tortured innocent babies just for fun, and creationist have some elements in common, such as delusions.
Also, I've stated numerous times, knowing something is wrong, doesn't mean that we won't do it. You may know it's wrong to cheat on your wife, but may cheat on her.