RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 10:24 am
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 10:33 am by LadyForCamus.)
(April 9, 2019 at 5:14 am)Acrobat Wrote:(April 8, 2019 at 7:18 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: No, it doesn’t. There are perfectly natural, evolutionarily-grounded explainations for why we feel love for babies. It’s really not a brain bruster as to why living things care for their offspring.
Few things, I also accept evolution, appealing to evolution in defense of nihilism, doesn’t get much mileage as an argument.
Then I suppose it’s s good thing I’m not putting forth an argument for nihilism. I’m pointing out that appealing to things like love, empathy, and meaning as evidence for god is an argument from ignorance. These things are not problems or puzzles of the natural world that need solving.
Quote:Evolution isn’t the source of the potential for lumps of matter to love, have eyes, reproduce, consciousness, etc... It only actualizes such potentials.
...what?
Quote:Secondly, I didn’t say our love or empathy for babies. I was referring to our perceptions of the wrongness of torturing innocent babies just for fun, as something truly wrong, and not subjectively wrong, like we might say of our taste in food.
What makes it truly wrong?
Quote:So I guess this universal understanding that harming babies is not so universal after all.
Quote:Human beings across cultures and societies share a core morality, respond similarly to a variety of moral questions. So yes there are some universal understanding when it comes to right and wrong. It should also be said recognizing right and wrong, is not the same as doing what’s right or wrong. A thief may know it’s morally wrong to steal, yet steal.
What does any of this have to do with a god?
Quote:Secondly the practice of child sacrifice, or murdering babies, operates on delusions and false beliefs to justify it, like scapegoating.Those practicing it have to deny or conceal the innocence of their victims, to mask the wrongness of performing such actions. Meaning that their beliefs, operate similar to other delusional and false beliefs, like holocaust denial, or flat earthism, and not like people who have different taste in clothes. Operate like denials of reality, rather than differences in subjective opinions.
Well, now you’re just moving the goalposts.
Quote:How so?
Quote:Which of these cases, would make a better case for nihilism:
A reality in which we didn’t desire truth, meaning, and goodness. Just creatures looking to survive and reproduce, and not creatures like us, who seek something to live for.
Or a reality in which we do posses such desires.
Which of these realities would appear more meaningless?
That’s a bizarrely formed question. How does it follow that because we seek something to live for, therefore objective meaning and god exist?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.