RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 11:24 am
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 11:31 am by Acrobat.)
(April 9, 2019 at 11:04 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:Quote:the·ism
/ˈTHēˌizəm/
noun
- belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.
Deism isn't a form of theism, pantheism is. The clue is in...wait for it...theism.
The term atheism was coined in direct response to theistic claims, but has come to include anyone who doesn't believe in gods, including deists gods - though deists and pantheists actually have been called and considered atheists, historically.
Ah, so deist are atheist?
Here dummy, a wikipedia article going over the types of Theism (notice deism listed under the types):
[/url]Types of Theism:
Main article: Monotheism
Monotheism (from Greek μόνος) is the belief in theology that only one deity exists.[10] Some modern day monotheistic religions include Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Baha'i Faith, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, Eckankar and some forms of Hinduism. There have been many proofs of Monotheism postulated by a multitude of philosophers and academics throughout history. However, many of these proofs are either unknown or have been misinterpreted.[citation needed]
Main article: Polytheism
Polytheism is the belief that there is more than one god.[11] In practice, polytheism is not just the belief that there are multiple gods; it usually includes belief in the existence of a specific pantheon of distinct deities.
Within polytheism there are hard and soft varieties[citation needed]:
- Hard polytheism views the gods as being distinct and separate beings; an example of this would be certain schools of Hinduism as well as Hellenismos.
- Soft polytheism views the gods as being subsumed into a greater whole. Some other forms of Hinduism such as Smartism/Advaita Vedanta serve as examples of soft polytheism.
- Henotheism: The viewpoint/belief that there may be more than one deity, but only one of them is worshiped.
- Kathenotheism: The viewpoint/belief that there is more than one deity, but only one deity is worshiped at a time or ever, and another may be worthy of worship at another time or place. If they are worshiped one at a time, then each is supreme in turn.
- Monolatrism: The belief that there may be more than one deity, but that only one is worthy of being worshiped. Most of the modern monotheistic religions may have begun as monolatric ones, although this is disputed.
Main articles: Pantheism and Panentheism
- Pantheism: The belief that the physical universe is equivalent to god, and that there is no division between a Creator and the substance of its creation.[12]
- Panentheism: Like Pantheism, the belief that the physical universe is joined to a god or gods. However, it also believes that the divine pervades and interpenetrates every part of the universe and also extends beyond time and space. Examples include most forms of Vaishnavism and the philosophy of Baruch Spinoza.
Main article: Deism
- Classical Deism is the belief that one God exists and created the world, but that the Creator does/do not alter the original plan for the universe, but presides over it in the form of Providence; however, some classical Deists did believe in divine intervention.[15]
- Pandeism: The belief that God preceded the universe and created it, but is now equivalent with it.
- Polydeism: The belief that multiple gods exist, but do not intervene in the universe.
Main article: Apotheosis
Autotheism is the viewpoint that, whether divinity is also external or not, it is inherently within 'oneself' and that one has the ability to achieve godhood. This can be in a selfless way, a way following the implications of statements attributed to ethical, philosophical, and religious leaders (such as Mahavira[citation needed]).
Autotheism can also refer to the belief that one's self is a deity, within the context of subjectivism. Hindus use the term, "aham Brahmāsmi" which means, "I am Brahman".[17]
- [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutheism]Eutheism is the belief that a deity is wholly benevolent.
- Dystheism is the belief that a deity is not wholly good, and is possibly evil.
- Maltheism is the belief that a deity exists, but is wholly malicious.
- Misotheism is active hatred for God or gods.
(April 9, 2019 at 11:20 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It makes no more or less sense in either world, and desire doesn't have to make sense in the first place. Absent any external or inherent meaning, human beings would still desire it. Human desire needs no explanation beyond the fact that humans are creatures that desire. It doesn't depend on our desires being sensible or referent..even if we live in a world in which desire -can be- referent to external or inherent value it's still very often the case that it is not.
Okay, explain why biological creatures like ourselves desire meaning, in a world where such meaning does not exist?