RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 1:13 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 1:15 pm by Acrobat.)
(April 9, 2019 at 12:45 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote:(April 9, 2019 at 9:42 am)Acrobat Wrote: You mean relative to those who hold the goal/ought to do what's best for human thriving?
If I don't hold such a goal, then would you say I have no such moral oughts here? That the wrongness of torturing innocent babies just for fun might be true for you, but not for me.
Or in other words for your objective morality to work, it relies on people to subscribe to a subjective goal like doing what's best for human thriving?
You didn't explain how objective morality based on relative human interests (rather than, say, the interests of ants) is "convoluted and contradictory nonsense." You just restated that you don't see the difference between subjective and objective but relative morality.
In other words, killing babies has nothing at all to do with human thriving (objective but relative morality), no matter how much some warped individual may enjoy it (subjective morality). Remember the "if-then" statement? If you want human thriving, then you ought to do such-and-such. That is relative morality.
I expect you will really address the question next time, instead of just side-stepping it.
If you were patient, and actually answered the questions I would show you that.
I'm trying to show you exactly how your beliefs in objective morality are contradictory and inconsistent, through a serious of questions that demonstrate that.
So if you want to give me the opportunity to demonstrate this, then please answer the fairly straightforward questions I asked, rather than criticize the method in which I use to do this.