RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 2:17 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 2:26 pm by Acrobat.)
(April 9, 2019 at 2:11 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote:(April 9, 2019 at 2:05 pm)Acrobat Wrote: I don't have any innate impulse to do what's best for human thriving. If we're strictly speaking about evolution, then the only goal evolution has in mind is for me to have sex successfully. Any selected for feature, is terribly short sighted, developed in consideration of immediate ecological pressures, with very little to any changes in our biology, as the product of natural selection, since the beginnings of our species, in our more tribal predicament.
So it shouldn't be surprising that the people I care about the most is my family, and my small community, and not so much humanity as a whole. Whether or not you get killed, robbed, etc... is of far less of a concern for most people than the glass in their cupboard, or their iPhones.
Not only do I not possess such a goal, I also reject the moral authority, of your supposed group that subscribes to such a goal, and wants to impose such an obligation on to me.
Based on this predicament, where does that leave your objective morality? It's true for you, but not for me?
I don't think you know very much about human evolution, if that is what you believe it implies.
Yes, our moral impulses are acted out in relationship to the people in our families and communities. And this is a problem how exactly? Those are the people we are in contact with.
I see no predicament. I think you are just making things up at this point.
You claimed we have an innate goal of doings what's best for human thriving. You didn't limit it to the "thriving" of our small little tribes, but to humanity in general.
(April 9, 2019 at 2:16 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Moot point, really, since you've bullshitted us for pages and can't muster up a single shred of credible honesty about your own beliefs.
Either you're the person you described in argumentation, and that would be a shitty person..or you're not..just a liar, and that would also be a shitty person. Take your pick.
No it's not a moot point. No, that describes my views in relationship to your moral beliefs. But I just indicated my beliefs, and didn't say anything about my actions.
I also don't see myself as unique, but as much an everyman, with nothing particular about my environment or moral development distinct from most people in the world, so if I constitute as a shitty person, it's unlikely to be a unique judgement, but one that can be leveled at humanity as a whole, as a result of shared environments and biological histories.