(April 9, 2019 at 3:13 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What differences in beliefs? We're both..ostensibly, realists. We both believe that life has meaning. We both accept that people will be dirtbags regardless of whether or not there are true moral statements.
None of this has anything to do with gods, an atheist and a theist can both accept and reject any of these statements on either side.
You don't believe in a transcendent moral order, you don't subscribe to a teleological views regarding morality or meaning. You don't believe reality possess moral aims, but rather moral aims are the agreed upon subjective goals of some people. You don't believe that reality possess intrinsic meaning, as far as I know either.
So no we don't believe the same things here.
When i speak of morality or meaning, I mean it the way I outlined, not in the way you do.