(April 30, 2019 at 1:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(April 30, 2019 at 1:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Holy crap dude. I cant spell, thanks for the update.
I could give a shit less if a box with gold angels on top it existed. It still would not make magic real.
We can prove depictions of the Egyptian gods Ra, Osiris and Isis and Horus existed. But nobody sane believes in the "Egyptian book of the dead'.
Something certainly inspired the "Ark" story, just like something inspired claims of Apollo and Zues and Venus and Vishnu. And we have plenty of artifacts proving humans made those claims as well.
What I doubt is the super natural, and gods. If you want to claim somebody inspired the "Ark" story, well no shit, otherwise the story would not exist. But it is still a myth, and did not happen like the bible claims, much less the movie itself.
If a old box made in antiquity were proof of a god or the super natural then anything the Mayans built that we have found today are proof of their gods.
The Ark is a legend.
It doesn't matter if magic is real or not (and I agree, it isn't).
We've been through this before with the Crown of Thorns. When you say, 'The ark never existed', you're making a statement regarding the historicity of a particular object. You aren't making claims about magic or the supernatural.
Certainly, the Ark of the Covenant wasn't a magical box with the ability to melt Nazi faces (although how cool would THAT be??), but your blanket claim that it didn't exist isn't supportable - in fact, there's some middling good evidence that it did exist.
Boru
No, sorry, The Crown of Thorns is not like documenting Mount Vernon or George Washington.
The crown of thorns STORY is older than the relic claimed. And that is the point. The story came first, the relic came centuries after. Easy to manufacture a prop after the legend is told.
We don't have to rely on second hand stories about George Washington. And nobody sane today buy's the Cherry Tree mythology.
The "crown of thorns" motif is a result of the age of kings. It wasn't because an actual guy named Jesus existed. It was because religions were competing in an age of kings, and the early Christians marketed both their stories and relics to sell a new religion, IN AN AGE OF KINGS.
Religious relics are made and sold like stage props in a magic show. It does not matter if the prop itself is real, nobody literally saws the woman in half.
