RE: Good vs Evil
June 10, 2019 at 11:11 am
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2019 at 11:28 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Then there you have it. You don't believe in the existence of moral improvement, so what point would having a discussion on moral improvement either in life or throughout history be with you?
Sometimes I wonder if you've ever actually taken the time to tally up the sorts of shit you don't believe in next to the shit that you do. Consider all that you've told us as truth over the years... but moral improvement?
No, none of that, anywhere, ever. I actually find it difficult to believe that even you could believe that. Nevertheless you implore us to believe this. It's a heavy lift, and it's going to take more than vague references to whatever part of pop culture you detest to make that charge stick as a pessimistic comment on humanity. Or, to be frank, to put it in any light or context where it isn't false on it's face as a claim.
Have you considered the commitments such a position places on you in context of your own remarks or even your own faith? What is the value of harping on moral depravity, or, hypocrisy..or jesus, for that matter..if there is no moral improvement? No better answer or better understanding? What's left for you to tell us, but to believe or burn? We couldn't improve ourselves by believing in your god, if what you tell us about such improvement is true.
Can you understand why I find it difficult to believe that you will adhere to this notion when you expound upon christ? Or why I find it so novel that a person who has been blessed with so much good fortune in the people around him, as you tell it, would have an even darker view of human beings and human endeavour than someone like myself? Do you really see nothing in humanity but a bunch of worms eeking out a wretched existence with no moral compass between the lot of us, nor even the possibility of betterment?
Sometimes I wonder if you've ever actually taken the time to tally up the sorts of shit you don't believe in next to the shit that you do. Consider all that you've told us as truth over the years... but moral improvement?
No, none of that, anywhere, ever. I actually find it difficult to believe that even you could believe that. Nevertheless you implore us to believe this. It's a heavy lift, and it's going to take more than vague references to whatever part of pop culture you detest to make that charge stick as a pessimistic comment on humanity. Or, to be frank, to put it in any light or context where it isn't false on it's face as a claim.
Have you considered the commitments such a position places on you in context of your own remarks or even your own faith? What is the value of harping on moral depravity, or, hypocrisy..or jesus, for that matter..if there is no moral improvement? No better answer or better understanding? What's left for you to tell us, but to believe or burn? We couldn't improve ourselves by believing in your god, if what you tell us about such improvement is true.
Can you understand why I find it difficult to believe that you will adhere to this notion when you expound upon christ? Or why I find it so novel that a person who has been blessed with so much good fortune in the people around him, as you tell it, would have an even darker view of human beings and human endeavour than someone like myself? Do you really see nothing in humanity but a bunch of worms eeking out a wretched existence with no moral compass between the lot of us, nor even the possibility of betterment?
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