El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If I could point to a situation where legal, law-abiding gun owners ARE the problem, and proposed a solution that would affect you (but not inconvenience you greatly) while potentially reducing school shootings in the US by 80%, would you be willing to discuss it?

Boru

Of course.


But anything you come up with will not be assumed as " fact".

Those need to be proven.

Fair enough.

First off, 80% of schools shooters got their weapons from family members without those members' knowledge (  this is an opinion piece, but has links to the original research https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/20...oters-data ).

Given that, it seems clear that some people (not all) have unsecured weapons in their homes.  From what I've been able to learn, this is NOT a crime in most of the US.  In other words, a person with an unsecured weapon or weapons is pretty generally a law-abiding gun owner.

What objections would you raise to making having unsecured weapons in a private home a serious crime, something along the lines of criminal endangerment?  Bear in mind that there are several models of gun safes that you can give access to your gun in two seconds or less (the price of these seems to be somewhat less than the price of a handgun).

Two scenarios:

Little Timmy finds Uncle Joe's pistol in the nightstand, steals it, and kills two classmate and a teacher the next day.  Uncle Joe is charged and found guilty of criminal endangerment and goes to prison for three years.

Little Jimmy finds Uncle Jack's bedside safe, but it is bolted to the nightstand and Jimmy doesn't have the code to unlock it.  Most likely, Jimmy gives up and cools off.  But let's say he doesn't. Somehow, without alerting Uncle Jack, he manages to unbolt the safe and get it out of the house.  After several hours' work with a hammer and chisel, he manages to get the safe open, takes the gun and kills the first three people he sees.  The police investigate and determine that Uncle Jack did everything that he could reasonably be expected to do to secure his gun.  He isn't charged with a crime.

Does this make sense to you?  That gun owners should be required take precautions to secure their firearms, and that this should be enforceable by law?

Boru