[Serious] How Do I Help My Friend?

[Drich]

So what are your long term intentions?

It is just to get her free from the evil church or are you looking to possibly sponsor a long term care similar to what the church is in a position to do for her?

I know from being apart of a benevolence program people like this are the one's we as a congregation are looking to help but at the same time would rather spend the money on a full on church member rather than someone who does not believe and is only in attendance to take advantage of the church's generosity.

If you want to help look to see who has this person's long term interest best at heart.

Helping her express her hate for God is not going to help her situation with the people who can provide at least some measure of assistance to her family and her situation.

Come on, many Christians don't consider Jehovah Witnesses part of the "in-crowd". They are too "out there" for them. Their beliefs are different to most protestants. Secondly, her parent don't even want her meeting other Christians even. She's only allowed to meet Jehovah Witness people, as I stipulated. She want to leave home due to how nasty they are towards her.

how do you think churches like that have that much control over people? They are indebted to that church or the church is paying them some how. this often comes in the way of food medical assistance, or even subsidized living.. your gf may not even know about this.. but her parents are fully indoctrinated so they have their hooks in somewhere. now. let's say you go over and tell her how to rebel against the church and god and she does. then lets say the church will cut them off cause they will.. now how much better off is your gf now? if she was cutting her self and going nuts in a decent house with all the modern conveniences with a full belly at night and all the meds the doctors say she needs... what the hell is going to happen when apart of that if not all of it goes away?

Can you support the family like the church supports the family? what is more important the stability of one whole family who needs to work out a few problems or your need to spend time with this chick by eliminating God?are you willing to support this whole family or provide for them the way the church does? if not then drop religious aspect to your mission and help your friend by bring other people in to address her self mutilation. there is nothing you can do for that, and if there is then she is a monster you do not want anything to do with anyway.

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No one is discussing casting off any god, except you.

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come on man do I need to hand connect all the dots???? Did you even read the OP???

The chicks parents do not want her dealing with any non jw.

So what is dude? a atheist jw?

No he is just a horned up atheist looking to 'be friends with' this chick.

so what happens when he offers a way out of this life style a way out of her impending doom? it ultimately means the end or separation of herself from the church. which her parents strictly forbade probably because they are in deep with this church.. especially if she is special needs.

Any help he gives her will break the JW covenant which puts the whole family in violation of the church which unless they disowner the whole family will be cut off from whatever the church is giving.

So minimum the girl get kicked out of the house. a half crazy high medical needs person. with little to no way to pay for this stuff. worse case everybody is on the street...

So again unless dude is willing to step up and transition everyone out of a toxic faith, then he needs to find another way to wet his wick. Otherwise why does her needs out weigh the needs of the whole family?