The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If anyone ever came along and truely fullfilled all the prophecies that the respected prophets of their culture had made concerning the messiah they have waited so long for, especially considering some of the attributes that this messiah is suppose to posses like performing supernatural acts, the jews would have more than noticed this, and would have embraced this messiah and he would have impressed the world and became the world leader like one of the prophecies claimed, and not have been executed for herecy which is not a messianic prophecy, and we wouldnt have a religion that rejects the prophecies directly address the messiah and embraces non messianic texts in Isaiah which could be attributed to more than jesus who was executed for herecy after claiming this role. It seems that folks who wanted jesus to be the messiah most definitely made things up in his story to both sound convincing and impressive when these things were made up, because the vast majority of jews in the first century most definitely werent impressed with anyone who has claimed that role. plus its well known that Pilat and Herod could not have done what the NT claims they did when they did. Herod died before the 1st century for crying out loud. god told me he prayed to himself and had to let himself know that his will didnt quite agree with his other will, but will submit to his own will afterall,    then let the others he was reciting this to that he told himself "not my will but thine be done". this is insanity to think this is true,  it looks more like a fictiional story about a man who is claimed to be the human incarnate of the invisible skygod that him and his culture believe exists,  and included details about him praying to hisself as if his other personaly, needed to know something which again makes no sense yet the scriptures even says that this god isnt suppose to be confusing.

There are lots of things you haven't considered. For one, there were hundreds, if not thousands of witnesses to Jesus! I know even my meager memory of drunken frat parties can be filled in by several friends who were there. Why not Jesus' revelations and miracles all the more by sober witnesses? Secondly, OT scripture, especially Isaiah; "Suffering Servant", wasn't mainstream, or accepted by any means as the precursor to the Messiah! No, according to the Jewish Priests and scribes, the Messiah was going to "slice & dice", his way across the land.

If there would be a "story to sell"..... it wouldn't be the [Jesus story]: some poor carpenter, wanting you to love the Romans, and eat His body, and drink His blood! And then to be hung on a tree to die, with a bunch of lowly women being the ONLY witnesses to His resurrection. No.... not at all.

The main problem with the Jesus story for nonbelievers, is there is a disconnect for any logic in it. But hey, that was the point! The story, specifically the Gospel, has to be taken in as a "whole works". And, to painfully quantify it; "Love God, and Love thy neighbor as thyself." Doing all of the above will be an act of redemption, and save one from sin and the fires of hell. Whether you (or even some pigmy in the Congo) know Jesus, or not you would be doing His will for us. And thus your ticket to Paradise! Amen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xRhwmHBBE

Boru